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Meeting Minutes

Tuesday, October 23, 2012 at 6:30 p.m.

 

1.            Introduction / Call Roll

Chair Jan Vanderwall called the meeting to order at approximately 6:30 p.m.

 

Members Present: Chair Jan Vanderwall; and Members Jim DeBenedet; Joan Felice; Steve Gjerdingen; and Dwayne Stenlund

 

Staff Present:        Public Works Director Duane Schwartz; City Engineer Debra Bloom

 

Others Present:       Xcel Energy representatives: Ms. Colette Jurek, Community Relations Manager and Mr. Ed Bieging, Manager of Outdoor Lighting

2.         Public Comments

No one appeared to speak at this time.

 

3.            Approval of September 25, 2012 Meeting Minutes

Member Felice moved, Member DeBenedet seconded, approval of the September 25, 2012, meeting as presented.

 

Ayes: 5

Nays: 0

Motion carried.

 

4.            Communication Items

Public Works Director Duane Schwartz advised that updates were available on the City’s website, at www.cityofroseville.com/projects; and further highlighted in the staff report dated October 23, 2012, along with a verbal project update.

 

Mr. Schwartz announced and invited all to attend a ribbon cutting as part of the recent Fairview Pathway Project on Thursday, November 1, 2012 at 12:00 noon on the Campus of the U of MN.  Mr. Schwartz advised that this was a part of the recognition for a portion of the project funding under a federal pilot project through funding from the Transit for Livable Communities Program.  At the request of the Commission, Mr. Schwartz advised he would make sure the information was included on the City’s website with applicable links.

 

Member Felice expressed her appreciation for the pathway addition to that area of Roseville; opining that it was already being used a lot.

 

Discussion of other projects included the recent bid opening for sewer lining projects, with award still pending until due diligence had been completed by staff, particularly the 3M product, since the bid for use of that product had come in significantly lower than other proven technology; update from staff on the lighter participation in this year’s leaf collection program, with Mr. Schwartz reporting that, to-date, only approximately half the residents had signed up for the program compare to last year at this time.

 

Further discussion included the upcoming walk through by staff with residents along County Road D for the upcoming project, with City Engineer Bloom scheduled to provide additional information later tonight on the recent open house held with residents impacted by that project and concerns they had about sidewalk installation on the Roseville side, as well as speed concerns; a general discussion on when and how speeds are changed on roadways following a speed study being ordered and subsequent petition to and approval by the State of MN Commissioner of Transportation before any changes.

 

Additional discussion included an update on the fire station construction on the City Hall campus, with the foundation in and block work begun today; and trenching over the last few days to extend geothermal piping to the skating center, but not proposed for connection until spring; with hopes to have the building enclosed before excessively cold weather sets in this fall. 


Member Stenlund noted that more erosion control measures were needed around the site than those presently in place; with Mr. Schwartz advising that he would follow-up on that concern.

 

5.            Xcel Energy Presentation on LED Streetlight Study

Mr. Schwartz introduced Ms. Colette Jurek, Community Relations Manager and Mr. Ed Bieging, Manager of Outdoor Lighting for Xcel Energy to provide a discussion on where technology is today as it relates to street lighting and to discuss their LED pilot project in West St. Paul. 

 

A bench handout from Xcel entitled “LED Street Lighting Information and Frequently Asked Questions;” was provided and is attached hereto and made a part hereof.

Recess

Chair Vanderwall recessed the meeting at approximately 6:48 p.m. to resolve technical issues, and reconvened the meeting at approximately 6:51 p.m.

 

Ms. Jurek reviewed the pilot program being initiated by Xcel for LED street lights in West St. Paul.

 

While unable to access his online presentation, Mr. Bieging highlighted various components for such a program, using the information sheet provided as an outline.

 

Discussion included ongoing research for LED colors, those being used for the pilot program; initial installation costs and operational savings, with costs reduced as new technology advances.

 

Mr. Bieging spoke to thermal management failures found in initial applications in Brooklyn Park, MN and later improved fixtures and light distribution; reduced size and cost for fixtures, originally at $900 each, and now more in the $300 range for a 100 watt LED fixture and up to $500 for a 250 watt fixture; current life expectancy of fixtures (HPS averaging 3.5 – 6.5 years versus LED averaging 14-25 years); average wattage comparables (HPS up to 130 watts  and LED averaging 60 watts) and white light of LED providing for greater visibility and less shadowing.

 

Additional discussion included costs for fixtures, as well as infrastructure, administration and general expenditures for Xcel to change out from HPS to LED fixtures, ability to change cobra head connections for LED using existing standards; current cost per fixture for HPS averaging $9.50 now, and LED averaging approximately $10.50, with further reductions in the cost for LED lighting once actual overall costs are calculated and trends established, with another 10-15% reduction anticipated at this time.

 

Mr. Bieging reviewed other studies done or in process in communities in Texas, and Colorado (Denver) as well as the West St. Paul, MN study underway, the three (3) different climates of those sites; and findings of those various studies related to technology issues, type of fixtures, current vendors (Phillips and General Electric); and warranties those vendors were offering.

 

Mr. Bieging anticipated completion of Xcel’s rate study within the next 12-18- months if not sooner, once data had been compiled and evaluated; at which time Xcel would seek approval of an implementation rate from the Public Utilities Commission (PUC).  Once that approval had been received, Mr. Bieging advised that Xcel could provide the information to manufactures seeking specifications for the system.  At the request of Mr. Schwartz, Mr. Beiging explained that the PUC would not let Xcel implement any rates without first providing substantial data; and since LED lighting was inherently different in wattage levels, rates charged were required to have significant data for substantiation for the PUC.

 

Discussion among the Commission and Xcel representatives included: how the rate was broken down for capital versus maintenance costs for the fixtures, with maintenance representing the highest cost for LED as well as HPS as well; cost of each cobra head fixture at approximately $90, but the LED infrastructure cost currently about $300 until manufactures can reduce that cost based on economy of scale; replacement of bulbs versus the entire board and which was found the most efficient based on their life expectancy (23 years for a board); components (e.g. starter, ballast, bulb, other components) and their inability to be recycled at this time, but not identified as hazardous waste as they didn’t contain mercury vapor, which is no longer usable in MN. 

 

Additional discussion included life expectancy of LED bulbs at approximately 15-25 years; and potential reduction in operational and maintenance costs as LED lighting moves to the forefront, estimated at approximately 50%.

 

Mr. Bieging noted that use of LED lighting for decorative will not be as effective, nor save money, due to their design and limited lighting capabilities and levels, since LED lights are more direct than conventional HPS fixtures with lighting reflected and refracted inside the fixtures and distribution patterns; as well as the public perception of LED lighting as more measured with the whiter light and allowing use of lower wattages as technologies improve.

 

Ms. Jurek advised that it was Xcel’s intent to conserve energy and pass that savings on to its customer base, as well as reducing overall emissions.

 

Further discussion included off-peak power considerations and controls; directional lighting where needed through use of LED lights directed on streets and sidewalks for safety versus into customer’s yards (e.g. keyhole to keyhole lighting); relative ease in retrofitting existing cobra head light standards with LED technology; and reluctance of Xcel to consider dimming street lights when needed less due to litigation issues, as well as other considerations.

 

In conclusion, Mr. Bieging advised that new technologies were driving the future of outdoor lighting and the entire industry over the next 10-15 years, with Xcel hoping to be in a position of leadership with a strategic plan for replacing and updating outdoor street lighting systems.  Mr. Bieging noted that there was a considerable amount of pressure to move this LED street light program forward in the Midwest, advising that this may prompt an earlier resolution.  Mr. Bieging advised that studies for LED lighting in eastern and western states were more advance, primarily due to higher rate structures than currently realized in Midwestern states.

 

Chair Vanderwall and Commissioners thanked Mr. Bieging and Ms. Jurek for their informative presentation.

 

6.            Uniform Commission Code Proposal

As previously requested by the PWETC, Mr. Schwartz provided a DRAFT copy of the proposed ordinance (Attachment A) being developed by staff to provide a more uniform policy for City Council establishment and management of its various commissions, as well as to address specific needs of those specific commissions.

 

Mr. Schwartz advised that staff, under the direction of City Manager Malinen, had researched other communities and their use of more commonality for their commission structure; and advised that this was the first attempt to bring the City of Roseville’s current commissions, all established at different times and for different reasons, into one overall ordinance.  Mr. Schwartz advised that this preliminary draft did not provide feedback from any commission chairs from their recent meetings with City Manager Malinen, nor had it been presented to the City Council yet for their initial review.

 

Member Felice observed that most of the commissions called for a limit of seven (7) members, with the exception of the Parks and Recreation Commission, with a maximum of nine (9) members, and questioned the rationale for that discrepancy.  Member Felice suggested that, if the attempt was for standardization, it seemed to suggest a maximum for members across the board.

 

Mr. Schwartz was unable to respond; however, he advised that he was aware that the Parks and Recreation Commission for some time had more members than other commissions.

 

Member Gjerdingen noted that commissions could be reduced for future standardization by not filling vacancies as they occurred.

 

Chair Vanderwall noted that all commission chairpersons had been asked to consult with City Manager Malinen.  While recognizing the desire for standardization, Chair Vanderwall expressed his concern in losing any of the current available expertise represented by members of the PWETC, if they were only able to serve a maximum of two (2) consecutive terms.  Chair Vanderwall noted other commissions may not need the same level of technical expertise as the PWETC given the nature of their tasks.

 

Member Felice concurred.

 

Discussion ensued on how the City Council might address those concerns through their appointment/reappointment process; incumbents versus new applicants and the interview process prior to appointment/reappointment; and how best to provide flexibility to keep commissioners of value when the applicant pool may be weak or non-existent.

 

Chair Vanderwall, as well as other Members, expressed their appreciation in serving on the PWETC and the relatively interesting and timely issues and discussions coming before the body for recommendation to the City Council.

 

Further discussion included use and simplicity of Rosenberg’s Rules versus Robert’s Rules for parliamentary processes; with Chair Vanderwall clarifying that the City Council had adopted Rosenberg’s Rules as the official meeting protocol, but noted if and when the PWETC held public hearings, consideration may need to be included to allow them to do so and the process delegated to the body to proceed accordingly.

 

Chair Vanderwall advised that he had also brought to City Manager Malinen’s attention the current constraints in commissioners being unable to communicate amongst their members outside that correspondence being made part of the formal public record; and when or if exceptions were available for generic correspondence between members.

 

While recognizing these constraints, Mr. Schwartz noted that those rules went beyond that of City Code, since they originated with State Statute and Open Meeting Law restrictions for communication outside a public meeting by a public body.

 

Chair Vanderwall recognized those statutory restrictions, he opined that with ever-improving technology, those restrictions needed to be updated as well.

 

Member Stenlund noted, in the general comments at the beginning of the ordinance, he thought more should be added on ethics, and the need for annual ethical training by commissioners or an annual waiver by members.

 

Member Gjerdingen also noted the need to stipulate annual financial disclosure information by commissioners.

 

Mr. Schwartz clarified that ethics training was not mandatory, and readily available along with general ethics operating procedures and processes available on the City’s website.

 

Chair Vanderwall suggested that, in lines 109-112 of the draft ordinance, mention of a handbook or framework of behavior may be appropriate.

 

Member Stenlund noted that, if 2-4 year terms were adopted, he would no longer be eligible to serve; and while wanting more people to be involved in local government to obtain more and better ideas, he would be disappointed if no longer serving on the PWETC.

 

Member DeBenedet noted that Roseville had a strong history of willing volunteers; however, he also noted that some commissions had been difficult to fill in the past.

 

Chair Vanderwall noted line 420 and following in the document under “Duties/Functions,” particularly the “maintaining an interest” phrase and suggested a better definition of the duties or charge of the PWETC was necessary.  Chair Vanderwall suggested that current language was too broad, and needed more specificity in some areas.

 

Member DeBenedet concurred, suggesting an additional subheading or replacement for “C” or “D,” allowing the PWETC to initiate studies pertaining to topics of current interest in the field of public works, environment, and/or transportation (e.g. LED street lighting).

 

Member Stenlund concurred, noting the importance of other areas (e.g. MS4 annual monitoring and reporting, recycling issues/studies); and other things that are high functions of the PWETC; along with other useful functions intended to take some of the load off the City Council.

 

Mr. Schwartz advised that, while this draft ordinance is very preliminary, he would provide the PWETC’s feedback to City Manager Malinen.  Mr. Schwartz noted the typical intent to keep ordinances more general in nature, and not have them to detailed, allowing for changes in procedure more specific and as needed.

 

Member Gjerdingen expressed concern with line 48 of the ordinance and the age requirements, suggesting that it be changed to age 18.

 

Chair Vanderwall clarified that this spoke to student representation versus regular members of commissions; and their service during a school year due to the transitory nature of their service as ex-officio members of a commission.

 

7.            County Road D Reconstruction Project Preliminary Design

City Engineer Bloom reviewed this proposed 2013 joint project of the Cities of Shoreview and Roseville for design and reconstruction of County Road D, as detailed in the staff report dated October 23, 2012.  Ms. Bloom advised that the City of Shoreview was taking the lead (e.g. plans, specifications, and construction management); and reviewed those overall plans with the PWETC, and reported on open house discussions and site visits with residents to-date, as well as future communication efforts.  Ms. Bloom opined that the affected residents were well-represented with the exception of the School District No. 623, the Church, and the only commercial property at the southeast intersection of County Road D and Lexington Avenue.

 

Ms. Bloom noted that this was a County turnback road (evenly split between the cities) and therefore was a Minnesota State Aid (MSA) street and the design would need to be based on a ten (10) ton road, currently at 32’ width today, but widening out at the Lexington intersection.  Ms. Bloom advised that a formal right turn lane was proposed.  Ms. Bloom advised that the signal lights at the Lexington Avenue intersection were in good shape, and Ramsey County had determined that they would not be replaced.

 

Ms. Bloom addressed the Commission’s earlier discussion regarding speeds along this section of roadway, and possible consideration for speed range adjustments, if requested due to the location of the school; and noted that if a speed study was conducted, it didn’t necessarily mean the mph limit would be reduced, as it was based on actual average speeds during a certain period.

 

Chair Vanderwall suggested that staff of both cities see if consideration could be given, based on a strong neighborhood preference, the location of the school, and additional pedestrian facilities being planned.

 

Ms. Bloom reviewed proposed design for both segments (Lexington Avenue to Chatsworth Street) and Chatsworth to Victoria Streets, with the former segment showing 2,500 ADT from the last count performed in 2009, and the latter segment showing 1,400 ADT.  Ms. Bloom noted that the existing sidewalk on the Shoreview side (north) was 5’ wide, with a 5’ boulevard on that side constructed in recent years, with crosswalks at school entrances, and a road speed limit currently at 35 mph, and school zone designated at 30 mph when children are present.  Ms. Bloom advised that there wasn’t a strong indication of speeding, beyond perception, as it fell within the 85 percentile.

 

Ms. Bloom advised that the proposed street width at reconstruction was 33’, with an on-street shoulder, bike path and parking lane, with a one-lane drive lane in each direction, and parking maintained on the north side, as preferred by the neighborhood.    Ms. Bloom noted plans suggested parking on both sides of County Road D where the roadway was wider near the church; and would include a 6’ sidewalk installed on the south side.  With the exception of the Lutheran Church on the east end, and the auto care business on the west end, Ms. Bloom noted this area was entirely residential; and when the school was given consideration, it called for a regional pathway, as indicated in the Pathway Master Plan for facilitate pedestrian traffic and access. 

 

Ms. Bloom noted that there were only two (2) street openings on the south side (at Churchill and Chatsworth) for only two (2) side streets; however, she noted the significant need for pedestrian facilities, especially on the south side based on peak morning traffic volumes.  Ms. Bloom advised that this represented a long expanse, and currently unsafe pedestrian roadway; and no connection for crosswalks on the south side.  Based on those considerations, Ms. Bloom advised that staff was advocating for installation of the sidewalk on the south side.

 

However, Ms. Bloom advised that property owners were not supportive of sidewalk on the south side, generally in agreement that the north sidewalk was sufficient.  Ms. Bloom noted that she anticipated a petition from property owners asking that the sidewalk not be installed on the south side, rationalizing safety concerns on their part (e.g. snow removal and backing out from their driveways across a sidewalk and striking pedestrians), in addition to loss of their yards.  At this point, Ms. Bloom advised that staff was moving forward as proposed, using the Pathway Master Plan recommendations as a basis.  If a pathway is ultimately attached to the project, Ms. Bloom advised that approval from the Rice Creek Watershed District would be required, as it would change the buffer strip configuration for a 5’ boulevard.

 

Ms. Bloom then reviewed proposed utility work as part of the reconstruction project, including water main, noting that there was an interconnect between Shoreview and Roseville systems, with water main facilities along both respective sides of the County Road D.  Ms. Bloom addressed proposed construction for the water mains, seeking to facilitate school schedules, summer schools, bus routes, and how and when to provide temporary water services to those affected.  Ms. Bloom advised that attempts were underway to plan a condensed construction period with applicable deadlines for contractors to facilitate as little interruption and disruption as possible.

 

Chair Vanderwall, as School District 623 Transportation Manager, advised that summer school began on June 25, 2011; however, communication was needed between the school district and city to ensure coordination between the end of this year’s regular session on June 9, 2012, and summer school’s start, suggested that rescheduling may be possible.

 

Ms. Bloom advised that she intended to set up a personal meeting with school district representatives to discuss schematics and other areas of concern.

 

Ms. Bloom noted that there was ½ mile of water main for each city, with one connection on the Shoreview side, as well as two (2) properties on the Roseville side still having their own wells.  Ms. Bloom advised that it was staff’s intent to work with those property owners to connect at this time, or install the service lines at this time if they’re preference was to defer connection.

 

 

Ms. Bloom advised that there was also a twenty-five (25) unit apartment building along County Road D, requiring additional conversation related to temporary water service.  Ms. Bloom noted that, given these considerations, the water main project would require a tight schedule; and she didn’t want a repeat of issues that had arisen for both cities during the 2012 construction season with water main work significantly delaying projects.

 

Regarding the storm sewer utility work, Ms. Bloom and Mr. Schwartz advised that consideration was being given to lining versus digging, but overall management of that replacement was still in discussion stages.  While two (2) property owners had expressed interest in rain gardens, Ms. Bloom expressed hope in finding more interest, with staff internally discussing infiltration requirements, since both underground and above ground storage being required by the Rice Creek Watershed District.  Ms. Bloom advised that the City had installed swales in several front yards as part of the 2012 construction project; however, she noted that they were not well-received by affected residents.

 

Ms. Bloom advised that staff was going to continue further research, noting that the Capitol Region Watershed District had a good example of an under-the-road infiltration trench, providing good design.  Ms. Bloom advised that the preference was to work with property owners for the benefit of all; however, she noted that requirements were to get the water past the road and into rain gardens.  Ms. Bloom advised that she would continue refining the project with staff from the City of Shoreview, as well as affected property owners.

 

Regarding the current location of crosswalks benefitting only the school at this time, Ms. Bloom advised that part of her discussion with school district representatives would be possible relocation of those crosswalks to the intersections at street entrances versus the school driveway to determine the best solution.

 

Ms. Bloom suggested that given the school location and speed concerns, County Road D may be a good location for permanent solar speed boards alerting drivers to the school zone and showing their actual speed, especially during the school day.  Ms. Bloom advised that this was under discussion by Shoreview and Roseville staff at this time.

 

Chair Vanderwall suggested including a flashing light at crosswalks to assist school patrols as well.

 

Ms. Bloom noted that the road tapered out at the intersection, and the church was interested in installing more handicap stall that were vital to those less mobile; however, she was not sure if a similar resolution wasn’t available by redoing entrances at the church, and extending the sidewalk to Victoria.  Ms. Bloom advised that discussion was still underway if and how to change the off-set intersection at Chatsworth to connect with new construction, and address winter maintenance of the sidewalk adjacent to the church.  However, at this point, Ms. Bloom advised that no proposed changes beyond right turn lanes at the intersections were being proposed, given review of the geometrics.

 

Chair Vanderwall noted that, at least in the recent past, he was aware of a significant number of children from the apartment building walking to and from school without the aid of a sidewalk.

 

Ms. Bloom advised that staff had alerted the apartment property owner of the meeting, and asked him to post it at the building; however, she was not aware of any tenants or property representatives attending recent meetings about the project.

 

Member Stenlund suggested use of the school parking lot as a storm water pond, as a “green streets” application; allowing the school to do more with what they had, while still retaining the parking lot (e.g. high heat island, underground retention vaults) and also using it as part of a water quality education model for students and the community.  Member Stenlund noted that this would get cars off the road, but still provide parking options.

 

Mr. Schwartz advised that he and Ms. Bloom had discussed such an option at the church. 

 

Chair Vanderwall concurred with Member Stenlund, noting that the School District was always interested in projects that allowed them to be good stewards.

 

Ms. Bloom advised that staff was focusing on green areas (e.g. rights-of-way, boulevards, and existing ponds) for water management, noting that the church was very interested in retaining their green space, but remained open to dual use for storm water management as well. 

 

Ms. Bloom estimated that, to-date, City of Roseville staff had met with 60-70% of the property owners on the Roseville portion of the roadway, whether at formal meetings or one-on-one on-site. Based on past experience, Ms. Bloom noted that there was usually considerable interest from residents when staff was on-site during the walk through, scheduled for Saturday morning.

 

Regarding the proposed schedule, Ms. Bloom advised that the feasibility report was scheduled for finalization by respective staffs in late November, at which time an estimate would be available of the projected cost per linear foot and how assessments would be addressed; with a December 10, 2012 presentation to the Roseville City Council; followed by a Public Hearing scheduled early in 2013.

 

Discussion ensued regarding continuing with two (2) different water mains for each City and whether this wouldn’t provide an opportunity for sharing; difference with the City of Shoreview using well water, and the City of Roseville using surface water through the City of St. Paul; availability of emergency connections shared among a number of adjacent municipalities; and initial interest of residents in undergrounding power lines until they became aware of the cost of doing so.

 

Member DeBenedet expressed his personal preference that the City Council stood firm on staff’s recommendations for installation of the sidewalk on the Roseville side, supported by the Pathway Master Plan.  Member DeBenedet noted that this was a city-wide need, addressed and frequently updated over the last thirty (30) years, and needed to move beyond the dictates of the immediate property owners.

 

Chair Vanderwall concurred, noting that benefits would be realized once installed.

 

Regarding safety concerns in backing out of driveways across sidewalks, Member DeBenedet opined that the solution was to look behind you before doing so, being alert to pedestrian, bicyclers, and vehicles.

 

Member Stenlund opined that he suspected the real issue was related to snow shoveling.

 

In all fairness, Ms. Bloom noted that the Parks and Recreation Department’s maintenance crews attempted to clear all city pathways within twenty-four (24) hours; but advised that there may be some ridges experienced from the initial plowing.  Ms. Bloom noted that another challenge in this joint project was the two (2) different assessment policies for the respective jurisdictions, with the Shoreview policy assessing less than that of Roseville.  Therefore, as the project is refined further, Ms. Bloom advised that joint meetings of Shoreview/Roseville residents had therefore been eliminated as far as public information was concerned as policy discussion moved to diverging jurisdictions.  As an example, Ms. Bloom noted that standard sidewalk width in Shoreview is 6’ versus 6’ in Roseville; and their snow removal policies were also different.  Ms. Bloom noted that property owners had requested the City of Roseville to reduce sidewalk width to 4’, but had been informed by staff that this was not feasible.

 

In response to Member Gjerdingen, Chair Vanderwall noted that City of Roseville staff worked on a priority basis for snow removal from streets and/or pathways, and particularly for school access.

 

Ms. Bloom advised that the residential petition was proposing that the south side sidewalk only serve the area westward from Churchill to Lexington.

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8.            Utility Conservation Rate Discussion

As part of the City Council’s strategic directives, Mr. Schwartz advised that they had requested the PWEC review current conservation water rate structures.  Mr. Schwartz noted that this request was time-sensitive as the City’s Finance Director, Chris Miller, was currently analyzing current rates, and would be advising the City Council in November of any recommended fee changes as part of the 2013 budget, including water rates.   Background information and current water utility base rates for residential and commercial customers, as well as quarterly usage for those properties, and city-wide were detailed (Attachment A) in the staff report dated October 23, 2012.  Mr. Schwartz noted that legislative changes had also been addressed. 

 

Mr. Schwartz noted that conservation was occurring, based on that data; however, he wasn’t sure if some of that reduced use wasn’t related to mandated water savings requirements for new fixtures being installed.  

 

Mr. Schwartz sought PWETC feedback on whether additional tiers should be added for residential customers at the 20,000 gallon per quarter level as an alternative.

 

Chair Vanderwall noted that a tier at that level between 20,000 and 30,000 gallons would address 12% of the Roseville population.

 

Mr. Schwartz advised that he didn’t have figures from 2009 when original tiers were initially initiated; however, he thought the percentage of users at that time for over 30,000 gallons was between 6-7%.; and that it had dropped slightly since then. Mr. Schwartz admitted that the tier system wasn’t appearing to have a tremendous impact on incenting lower usage in Roseville; however, in order to affect enough customers to make an impact, it would take at least a 20,000 gallon tier.

 

Chair Vanderwall questioned the goal of the impact: whether to raise additional revenue to address the cost of delivery, to decrease consumption, or a combination.

 

Mr. Schwartz advised that any changes through this action would be essentially revenue-neutral, and it was being reviewed purely for conservation purposes.

 

Member Stenlund opined that simply going from 15,000 to 20,000 would not create a sufficient bump to accomplish the goal.

 

Member DeBenedet opined that it may make more sense to look at 16,000 to 24,000 as an additional tier; and then anything above 24,000 to look at more.  Member DeBenedet noted that he had recommended moving higher in previous discussions about tiers.

 

Chair Vanderwall noted the need to use care in how and where rates were raised, given previous raises to water and sewer rates and other fees. 

 

Member DeBenedet noted that most residents were concerned about increased rates and taxes out of our control.  However, he noted that most who would benefit by this additional tier would be those living alone or seniors typically using fewer gallons anyway, especially since the cost would be revenue-neutral.

 

Mr. Schwartz advised that staff would need the PWEC’s recommendation tonight, as the City Council’s meeting on the budget was scheduled for November 19, 2012; after which Finance Director Miller would put together a rate structure. 

 

After further discussion, members were of a consensus for a tier level from zero to 16,000 gallons; then a tier at 16,000 to 24,000 gallons, and then a tier for 24,000 gallons and over.

 

Member DeBenedet advised that, knowing that recommendation, Finance Director Miller would then formulate how to make it revenue-neutral.

 

Mr. Schwartz noted that base rates are at a fixed rate for a quarter, and as now set up essentially represented operating costs for the water utility (e.g. fixed cost and depreciation).  Mr. Schwartz advised that the consumption rate was simply a pass-through based on the amount charged Roseville by the St. Paul Water Utility.

Member DeBenedet moved, Member Stenlund seconded, the PWETC’s recommendation to the City Council the following three (3) tier adjustment to water rate structures for 2013:

0 = 16,000 gallons per quarter

16,000 – 24,000 gallons per quarter

24,000 gallons and above per quarter

 

Member DeBenedet noted that the concept was that the rate for use under 16,000 gallons would be reduced, but the higher tiered rates higher; all with the intended impact to obtain a revenue-neutral fee for Roseville residential customers; with no recommended changes for commercial customers.  Member DeBenedet opined that commercial users only used the water they required; but had little discretionary use beyond irrigation.

 

Ayes: 5

Nays: 0

Motion carried.

 

9.            2013 Construction Work Plan

Mr. Schwartz displayed and briefly reviewed locations of the proposed 2013 work plan for reconstruction and/or mill/overlay projects.  Mr. Schwartz advised that staff would present the proposal to the City Council at their November 19, 2012 meeting seeking their direction, for projects ranging from pathways, water main replacement (on Transit Avenue from Western to Rice) and water main replacement (from Transit Avenue to County Road C).  Mr. Schwartz advised that staff continued to refine the numbers; however, the scope of proposed 2013 projects would be slightly reduced from that of 2012, with only about a half mile of reconstruction and 2 miles of mill/overlay. 

 

Mr. Schwartz noted the City essentially completely reconstructed the City street system in the last 25 to 30 years; and the current pavement condition index ratings in the upper 70’s to low 80’s.  Mr. Schwartz advised that pavement throughout the street network appeared to be performing well; however due to other department-wide proposed work, staff had still outlined a significant work load for 2013 in the range of $3 – 4 million of projects.  Mr. Schwartz advised that one of those projects would include a grant application submitted to the Metropolitan Council for inflow and infiltration work (I & I) for lining 6-7 miles of sanitary sewer in 2013, representing a significant amount of work.    

 

In response to Member DeBenedet, Mr. Schwartz advised that grant funds were through the State bonding bill with metropolitan cities included as a group for I & I bonding money.  Out of the requested $8 million, Mr. Schwartz advised that the Metropolitan Council was scheduled to receive $4 million; and noted that unfortunately the City of Roseville’s system was listed among the “Dirty Forty” list identified by the Metropolitan Council for needed I & I work.  Mr. Schwartz advised that the City had previously received $150,000 for similar work, and this year was seeking $400,000 to help fund a portion of 2013 work.

 

With Member DeBenedet noting that the City’s 2013 work plan had been reduced from past years, Mr. Schwartz concurred, noting that from a reconstruction perspective, we only have Victoria St. south of County Road B left to reconstruct, since the remaining streets city-wide were essentially 100% reconstructed, with only mill and overlay needed based on their PCI.  Mr. Schwartz noted that this also could be attributed to a more “pavement friendly” winter last year.  Mr. Schwartz noted that those streets identified in the 2013 Work Plan represented those requiring significant maintenance needs. 

 

Mr. Schwartz further noted that the City’s 20-year CIP had originally called for annual revenue specific to those needs over the next five (5) years; however, after re-evaluation, staff thought it was prudent to reduce to the level indicated in the ratings.

 

Member DeBenedet expressed concern that infrastructure needs continue to be addressed and not deferred.

 

Mr. Schwartz concurred, noting that any street spending identified for this year and not spent would be pooled for future years, based on how distressed the system appeared.

 

Member DeBenedet suggested a future PWETC discussion include a review of the PCI city-wide compared with average pavement life cycles and how things were currently trending.

 

Chair Vanderwall noted that the City’s asset management software would assist; with Member DeBenedet noting that the City also had a separate software system specific to PCI.

 

Mr. Schwartz advised that the City Council had asked the PWETC for a review in the near future, and as time allowed, to determine if the City’s PCI target ratings were appropriate.

 

Member Gjerdingen noted his observations with sidewalks lacking ADA compliance (Commerce Avenue along the MN Department of Education building; one at the intersection of Commerce and Albert; and another along the Target property); and asked that those be analyzed for future resolution.

 

Member Felice noted the need to review ADA cuts for sidewalks into the Har Mar Mall facility, opining that there were not many cuts in that sidewalk to facilitate ADA compliance.

 

Mr. Schwartz duly noted that request; clarifying that each project provided for consideration as to whether it can be brought up to ADA standards.

10.         Possible Items for Next Meeting – November 27, 2012

·         Ice control product discussion

·         Preliminary/updated 2013 budget information

·         Rescheduling/canceling the December 2012 meeting due to the holidays (DeBenedet)

Mr. Schwartz advised that he was not he was aware of any time-sensitive issues if the body chose to cancel the December meeting and not meet until January of 2013.

·         Pavement Condition Index (PCI) map discussion (DeBenedet

·         City-owned parking lot lights related to LED retrofits (DeBenedet)

Mr. Schwartz noted that the City Council’s Capital Improvement Program (CIP) Task Force had made recommendation that the City Council provide capital funding annually for street lights beginning in 2013 ($25,000 annually) for city-owned lights in parking lots, etc.

 

Member DeBenedet noted that this would provide a good opportunity to phase in new LED lights as HPS lights reached the end of their life cycles or needed significant maintenance.

 

Mr. Schwartz offered to find out from Xcel if they had any rebate programs available for parking lot retrofit lighting.

 

Member DeBenedet suggested this issue return for additional discussion in January or February of 2013.

·         Member Stenlund suggested a speaker at a future PWEC meeting about “green streets,” similar to a recent U of MN Water Resource Conference; and suggested Cliff Aichinger of the Ramsey-Washington Metro Watershed District would be a good candidate.

 

Chair Vanderwall advised that School District No. 623 has submitted grant applications through the Safe Routes to School Program in the past; and suggested the City and the School District consider an application on this next solicitation process.

 

11.         Adjourn

Member DeBenedet moved, Member Stenlund seconded, adjournment of the meeting at approximately 8:48 p.m.

 

Ayes: 5

Nays: 0

Motion carried.

 

 

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