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Meeting Minutes

Tuesday, February 25, 2014 at 6:30 p.m.

 

1.            Introduction / Call Roll

Chair Vanderwall called the meeting to order at approximately 6:30 p.m.; and Assistant Public Works Director/Engineer Culver called the roll.

 

Members Present: Chair Vanderwall; and Members Steve Gjerdingen; Jim DeBenedet; and Joan Felice

 

Members Excused:           Member Dwayne Stenlund

 

Staff Present:          Assistant Public Works Director/City Engineer Marcus Culver; and Environmental Specialist Ryan Johnson

 

2.            Public Comments

None.

 

3.            Approval of January 28, 2014 Meeting Minutes

Member DeBenedet moved, Member Felice seconded, approval of the January 28, 2014, meeting as amended.

 

Corrections:

·         Page 6, Line 249 (Gjerdingen)

Typographical correction “hole”

·         Page 10, Line 402 (Vanderwall)

Correct to read: “Chair Vanderwall suggested that, if Mr. Culver could sole [pedestrian] crossing[s] for County Road B…”

 

Ayes: 4

Nays: 0

Motion carried.

 

4.            Communication Items

Chair Vanderwall read a statement prepared by staff apologizing for and acknowledging a recent violation of the Open Meeting Law when a quorum (3 members) of the Public Works, Environment, and Transportation Commission members attended a meeting on November 20, 2013, which had not been noticed as a public meeting.  Chair Vanderwall assured the public that this was inadvertent, and in acknowledging the violation, staff committed to avoiding any such repeat occurrences in the future.

 

While acknowledging that this was unfortunate, Member DeBenedet noted that no action had been taken during the meeting, and that it was held only for informational purposes.

 

Assistant Public Works Director Marc Culver provided a report from last night’s City Council meeting at which Public Works Director updated the City Council on staff’s response to a considerable number of private water service freeze-ups, with more anticipated as frost is now approximately seven feet (7’) deep.  Discussion at the City Council level included costs borne to residents from those freeze-ups and for thawing the lines, with the City crews not always successful in getting them thawed due to their limited pressured hot water flushing equipment and staff; with fewer than 50% or fewer successful.  Mr. Culver reported that most of the problem areas are long-side services with the line installed on the opposite side of the road; often with the service line beyond seventy feet (70’) before it connects with the water main; and usually under paved driveways or roadways with little snow cover.  Mr. Culver advised that, in cases where the City had been unsuccessful in opening the lines, they had provided private contractor information to homeowners, typically welders who electrically charged the line to thaw it; with only a few welders found with machines large enough to accomplish that.  However, Mr. Culver noted that there was risk in performing that type of thaw, creating potential liability issues.

Mr. Culver advised that the City Council took action to reconfirm that service lines were privately owned and the responsibility of homeowners for costs up to the main, including the cost to thaw those lines.  The City Council further confirmed that City staff, as available, would attempt to assist homeowners with the pressurized hot water flushing equipment, but anything beyond that point would not be undertaken by the City other than to provide a list of contractors that were known to have welding equipment available and who may be willing to assist them; with the homeowner responsible to coordinate with the welder and pay for those services.

 

Mr. Culver provided a map showing the areas with freeze-ups, most in the southeast area of the City, with some historically problem areas where the roadway had been lowered after the initial water service had been installed, and many having already made arrangements to keep a steady stream of water running to avoid freeze-ups.  However, Mr. Culver noted that there a number of new freeze-ups beyond those previously known, but in the same relative vicinity.  While this apparent anomaly and pattern is still under investigation, Mr. Culver opined that staff thought it may be happening in areas with a combination of sandy soils where the frost went deeper and/or areas with shallower service lines. 

 

Mr. Culver noted that there were devices available to install in toilets or basement sinks that would trigger water running continuously when those water temperatures reached a certain point. 

 

Mr. Culver advised that staff was in the process of communicating to residents with patterns of freeze-ups by letter to alert them to run their water if water temperatures are running under 35 degrees; with authorization for a $20 credit on applicable water bills if they are running water during this unusual situation.  However, Mr. Culver noted the caution needed to tell people to run their water, and the pressure at which it should be run; as well as alerting the City of those actions before they do so to confirm that their water accounts will be credited appropriately.

 

Discussion included the location of the largest majority of freeze-ups; staff’s upkeep of a daily map to document those locations as calls came in, with the majority of the freeze-ups in a line from Bennett to McCarron’s Lake; with residents in that area being aware of that pattern in order to take preventative steps. 

 

Further discussion included whether there were sewer lines freezing as well, with Mr. Culver reporting approximately 10-20 to-date, with frozen water lines often a contributing factor for sewer line freeze-ups; with steps to prevent those occurrences often more successful by simply flushing hot water through the system.

 

Mr. Culver noted, with the odd winter conditions of snow, ice, lower than normal temperatures and other variables, it had been and was becoming more challenging for all jurisdictions and agencies, in addition to running out of salt and anti-icing materials across the board.  Mr. Culver reported that staff had been blending materials for some time now, and even though not a preferred method, it was necessary under the circumstances.  Mr. Culver noted that, in using more sand in the mix, it exacerbated issues in the spring with that runoff going into the storm water basins.

 

Chair Vanderwall noted one area of concern for him was with the arterial road running through Roseville and surrounding communities that were under the jurisdiction of Ramsey County.  Chair Vanderwall noted that the majority of those intersections were very slick, creating numerous accidents and safety issues; and asked that staff alert the County asking them to prioritize ice-control treatment efforts at those intersections.

 

Mr. Culver noted that “priority” was the key word in that request, as the County’s resources were becoming strapped as well, along with MnDOT.  Mr. Culver expressed his confusion that MnDOT did not apply more salt on Friday and over the weekend, but reiterated that everyone was trying to conserve their available resources, sometimes good and sometimes not.  Mr. Culver advised that City staff would continue to work with other jurisdictions and agencies to address areas of concern, including intersections.  Mr. Culver noted that often the most significant issues are at intersections that are significantly dipped, and at areas with steeper ramps (e.g. Lexington Avenue).  Mr. Culver advised that staff was trying to get salt and ice control materials from various resources.

 

Mr. Culver announced the retirement of long-term City employee Tony Thury, whose last day was today.  Mr. Culver thanked him for his thirty plus years of service to the community and wished him well in his retirement.

 

Chair Vanderwall note that, when talking about the City’s invisible infrastructure, this retirement is also an example of the community’s loss of a crucial piece of infrastructure in the Public Works Department with his institutional knowledge.

 

Mr. Culver concurred, noting that, even with attempts to make sure that institutional knowledge and experience is documented in the City’s asset management software, it was still a vital loss to the history of the community.

 

Mr. Culver noted that project updates since the last meeting and updates on various construction projects were included in tonight’s meeting packet and available on-line at the City’s website at www.cityofroseville.com/projects, and as detailed in the staff report dated February 25, 2014.

 

Discussion included 2014 sanitary sewer lining project bids coming in a little lower than the engineer’s estimates; additional comments of and considerations regarding the Snelling Bus Rapid Transit line and different vehicles under consideration for prospective riders with this express type service and the complimentary location of these arterial services to access LRT lines; and current work by staff on a feasibility study for the Wheeler Avenue Traffic Management Project and potential closure of Wheeler at County Road B, with that project anticipated for timing with the City of Arden Hills’ work on County Road D for cost-savings, probably in 2015; and if and when the feasibility study is accepted by the City Council and other applicable jurisdictions.

 

5.            Review of County Road B Pathway Project

Mr. Culver provided a brief presentation of the County Road B Pathway Project, as detailed in the staff report dated February 25, 2014; and as presented to the City Council at their February 10, 2014 meeting as noted for a short-term pedestrian facility extending the existing shoulder area along the south side of County Road B west of Cleveland Avenue.

 

Mr. Culver’s presentation included a project background and history; results of and comments from numerous neighborhood meetings and staff responses to those comments and concerns during the design process of the proposed project; immediate plans to reduce speeds in cooperation with Ramsey County; goals and options of this pedestrian facility and its separation from general traffic lanes; work plan with the majority of the work conducted by City staff and subsequent hiring of a paving contractor as applicable; costs for storm water features and any required soil or landscaping materials and drainage mitigation as part of the project;  and tying the project in with other trail rehabilitation projects in 2014 to obtain further cost efficiencies. 

 

Mr. Culver reviewed specifics of the intersection at Cleveland Avenue and County Road B; and coordination with the County in turnback of the roadway from the County to the City, hopefully within a few months and prior to this project; and work with the State for signal controls under their jurisdiction for correction of issues and extending the left turn arrow.

 

Mr. Culver noted that a number of ideas and minor issues brought forward by residents during discussions had been addressed, and had proven valid considerations.  Mr. Culver noted that parking would be restricted on the south side, which would unfortunately impact several homes on the south side of the street and location of their mailboxes.  Mr. Culver advised that the City Council had approved installing a sidewalk in that area – between Fairways and Fulham – at an additional cost estimate of $20,000 to $25,000, pending additional survey data this spring as details are finalized and drainage issues further reviewed.

 

At the request of Member Gjerdingen, Mr. Culver confirmed that the sidewalk would be concrete.

 

Mr. Culver reviewed subsequent long-term reconstruction of County Road B in approximately ten (10) years and additional design work with the neighborhood at that time on features, once it is determined if the roadway will be of urban or rural design.  Mr. Culver advised that, at that time, a more traditional pedestrian facility will be installed, most likely behind a raised curb and gutter if of urban design, with pros and cons for both types of design.  However, Mr. Culver noted that a significant consideration will be development of sustainable drainage as the City works with the Watershed District as part of that future reconstruction.

 

At the request of Chair Vanderwall, Mr. Culver confirmed that those plans may include rain gardens with rain water captured in some type of water treatment system for potential re-use as irrigation as part of the long range improvements of the roadway; which will also dictate whether or not the sidewalk portion of this short-term project will be salvageable or not as that long-term design develops.

 

Discussion included preferable north or south side for the long-term pedestrian facility based on a number of factors, variables, safety issues, and challenges.

 

Chair Vanderwall noted the difficulties in snow removal along this segment with the varying types of sidewalk and pathway; and opined that homeowners may want to consider helping with that maintenance if a facility is located in front of their property.

 

Mr. Culver acknowledged that, it was a valid point that as more walks are added it became a significant staff time and equipment issue with that maintenance.  Mr. Culver noted the City can clear the pathways, but it may not be as timely as residents and users of the facilities would like.

 

Discussion ensued on both sides of the issue of residents assisting in maintenance in their immediate area and depending on your areas of interest and abilities.

 

Concluding discussion included the cul-de-sac area and pedestrian facility in that area to address safety concerns and traffic levels; significant traffic generation from the multi-family apartment complexes; and whether or not rumble strips will end up being the preferred option at all, pending further discussion at the staff design level and with the neighborhood

 

Member DeBenedet spoke in support of the overall solution proposed by staff and accepted by the City Council, opining that it was excellent proposal and a good solution for the neighborhood.

 

Member Gjerdingen concurred, opining that it was a great demonstration of the City meeting the needs of the neighborhood having consensus with their concerns.

 

6.            2014 Construction Project Revise

Mr. Culver reviewed anticipated 2014 constructions projects consisting of the sewer lining project, the 2014 Pavement Management Plan (PMP) project, and the County Road B-2 sidewalk project; with the latter project being bid along with the 2014 Park & Recreation Program Renewal efforts.

 

Mr. Culver, using maps, reviewed the specifics of each project, and responded to questions and comments from Members. 

 

Discussion included the various opinions among engineers in if and when sealcoating should occur, and ongoing experimentation among agencies in the effects of that timing; and the importance of residents contacting the City or other jurisdictions with problem areas of which they’re aware to add additional incentive to make those areas more prominent in priority lists (e.g. Dale Street and Cleveland Avenue south of County Road B showing significant distress; lower area around Central Park; and U of MN commuter campus traffic on Cleveland Avenue accessing the freeway system). 

 

Mr. Culver provided a very preliminary look at proposed 2015 projects, including Victoria Street north of Larpenteur Avenue a joint Ramsey County/City reconstruction project, including sidewalk installation; and taking advantage of the four lane roadway and narrowing it for a pedestrian facility.  Mr. Culver noted that the County had been very receptive to-date in those discussions.

 

Chair Vanderwall opined that it would be interesting and advantageous to look at a map of Ramsey County projects overlaid with City projects to see areas of work proposed during the same timeframe.

 

At the request of Chair Vanderwall, Mr. Culver confirmed that the sewer lining would be coordinated with PMP areas and that contractor, even though the preference was to line segments the year prior to a PMP project.

 

At the request of Chair Vanderwall, Mr. Culver advised that no water pipe lining projects were proposed for this year; pending results of last year’s test project and improved technologies developing in the future to address issues found in getting a consistent thickness with the initial project.

 

Mr. Culver noted that the City was also experiencing a higher than average number of water main breaks this winter as well as the service lines previously discussed; and advised that those areas were given serious investigation and study when areas were found with successive breaks on one line; with work coordinated when possible with road construction projects unless emergency situations required action sooner.

 

7.            Introduction of Environmental Specialist Ryan Johnson

Mr. Culver introduced the City’s Environmental Specialist Ryan Johnson, who came on board in December of 2013.  Mr. Culver reviewed Mr. Johnson’s background, most recently with the Ramsey Conservation District (RCD) for the last eight years, and his close work with the City of Roseville and area watershed districts.  Mr. Culver opined that this created a good fit, and noted that the City was fortunate to have Mr. Johnson’s expertise, and his prior institutional knowledge available, along with his good relationship with the area watershed districts.  Mr. Culver noted that Mr. Johnson would be able to provide a good leadership role on storm water issues and projects, along with 25% of his time allotted to working with the City’s recycling program.

 

Mr. Johnson expressed his excitement to attend tonight’s PWETC meeting, and his pride in being a City of Roseville employee.  Mr. Johnson noted that he had worked with former Roseville Engineer Debra Bloom and Engineer Kristine Giga on numerous occasions, as well as Roseville property owners on drainage issues,  and improving water quality, bio-filtration and shoreline projects. 

 

Mr. Johnson admitted that his biggest challenge was getting up to speed with recycling and implementation of the City’s new single-sort recycling efforts in coordination with Eureka Recycling.  Mr. Johnson noted that his first month had been focused on the roll-out of that single-sort system, and was pleased with the process and citizen response to-date.  Mr. Johnson advised that the majority of the calls fielded by staff to-date were related to how to “retire” their old blue bins; confusion from residents upon delivery of the new wheeled carts, mostly based on misconceptions with homeowners associations and past practices; and noted the need to continue the educational focus with Eureka to promote the single-sort process and efforts to recycle more and keep materials out of the landfill.

 

At the request of Chair Vanderwall, Mr. Johnson suggested some options for the blue bins: donation to churches and/or schools for storage and other uses beyond recycling; storage by civic organizations of promotional or decorative items (e.g. Memorial Day flags); or by simply dropping them off at City Hall as there was a list of people waiting to re-use them.

 

Related to storm water projects currently under his design and future projects, Mr. Johnson reviewed by map the 2014 project locations, with seven (7) projects proposed at this time to mitigate existing drainage issues.  Mr. Johnson reviewed the specifics of each of the projects as included by map in the staff report dated February 25, 2014; and responded to questions and comments of the PWETC.

 

Discussion included the type of drainage system proposed at the bottom of the hill from Western Avenue on County Road B-2 for sidewalk installation and identifying it as a depressed area, not a pond, avoiding safety concerns; educational efforts proposed at the Central Park Elementary School project site to encourage children to get involved with the process by making an educational natural habitat area.

 

Chair Vanderwall offered to introduce Mr. Johnson to school staff as he gets involved in that project or others needing coordination with School District No. 623 staff.

 

At the request of Member Gjerdingen, Mr. Johnson reviewed the operation of an infiltration trench, proposed in the project area at Central Park to mitigate current drainage and flooding issues during large rainfall events.

 

Specific to the Sherren-Dellwood project area, Mr. Johnson noted that he had been introduced to this significant problem area during his work at the RCD, with sixteen areas flowing into one area creating critical flooding, and needing an off-site location versus the existing storm sewer.

 

At the request of Chair Vanderwall, Mr. Johnson reviewed the specifics of the Manson Street project to address flooding issues for a corner home with an underground infiltration system proposed and as part of the Parks Renewal projects, including increased plantings and redirecting of water.  Mr. Johnson noted that, this would only be one step in a much larger problem, but would provide immediate help to the resident experiencing significant issues without this emergency overflow system.

 

Mr. Johnson noted that an engineering firm was currently ranking and rating the huge choke point in the area of Old Highway 8 creating the overflow, with only a 12-18 inch pipe under that highway at this time; with 50 acres currently draining into this system before reaching the Rice Creek Watershed District ditch, and further consideration needed for the entire area to determine problem points.

 

Mr. Johnson noted that the City had received a grant through the Board of Water and Soil Resources (BWSR) for the work at Evergreen Park and, in working with the watershed district, storm water would be intercepted coming through the entire system and redirected to an underground vault for re-use as irrigation for the park.

 

Chair Vanderwall noted that there was significant water coming into the elementary parking lot there as well; and suggested that may be incorporated to contribute to that re-use, since the water was coming off the asphalt, and could be part of the mitigation efforts.

 

Mr. Culver noted that, as part of the overall plan for revitalization at Evergreen Park, the Master Plan indicated rain gardens in the southeast and northeast corners, and he had frequently assisted the drainage of those baseball fields and had observed the drainage toward Eldridge Avenue.  Mr. Culver opined that any opportunity to capture rain water and re-use is would be beneficial.  Mr. Culver noted that another area could also be the hockey rink location, which would no longer be maintained for that use, even though it may prove more difficult since it was on higher ground.  Mr. Culver advised that all of those areas would continue to be reviewed, and recognized that a lot of water was running through that school parking lot.

 

Chair Vanderwall noted that the school parking lot was very congested, and in working with transportation aspects for the School District, spoke in support of a separate bus lane along the south border of the park for buses to safely leave the parking lot without conflicts with other traffic from parents picking up students.  Chair Vanderwall admitted that there were significant drainage and parking lot issues in that area, and suggested one solution may be for an underground water storage system, similar to that installed at the Rainbow on Larpenteur and Fernwood, using such a cistern system for irrigation purposes.  Chair Vanderwall noted that this park was jointly owned by the School District and City, and suggested a further partnership in pursuing mitigation efforts if feasible.

 

Mr. Johnson noted the need for a structure on the southwest end of the parking lot as well, with a current beehive on the bottom corner where the water wants to run and the natural ditch area near the Evergreen Park field.  Mr. Johnson opined that there was no lack of ways that water could be re-used for multiple purposes.

 

Chair Vanderwall noted the advantages of irrigating ballfields without using other water; with Mr. Johnson responding that throughout the entire drainage area there would probably be more water available for re-use than would be used, and opined that the balancing act would be for parks to be usable but also make the best use of natural resources.

 

Specific to the B-Dale Club project, even though this was still in the design stages, Mr. Johnson advised that this would be a partnership with the Capitol Region Watershed District for re-use of the sewer feed through the Villa Park system; to remove pollutants currently running into McCarron’s Lake.

 

At the request of Members, Mr. Johnson provided a definition of the “hydrodynamic separator” proposed for this project for both short- and long-term infiltration in clearing off and filtering sediments from the pipe as part of that process.  Mr. Johnson advised that he would be working closely with Parks & Recreation staff to make sure as much water as possible was processed and re-used.

 

Mr. Johnson briefly reviewed a proposed 2015 PMP project at Victoria and County Road B for wetland clean-up with city-owned access to the filtration basin and pond; sonar data collection in cooperation with the RCD for Lake McCarron’s vegetation on the west end and from Villa Park; addressing remaining Lake Owasso direct discharges, with only a handful remaining – from both private and city-owned properties – and working cooperatively with the Ramsey-Washington Metro Area Watershed District, and provided pictures of several of those direct discharges. 

 

At the request of Chair Vanderwall, Mr. Johnson agreed to look at and add to his list the pond at Western and County Road C with four direct discharges and one direct out, all unfiltered and running fast during big storm events and containing a lot of sediment.

 

Mr. Johnson advised that, while Lake Owasso is not yet considered an impaired body, it is close to being designated as such.

 

Regarding private party best management practices (BMP’s) and MS4 requirements, Mr. Johnson advised that he would be checking previous installations to ensure they continued to function as designed and that they were being properly maintained.  Mr. Johnson reviewed examples of inspections, types of installation; and advised that the intent would be to map and inventory them and thereby comply with the checklist developed as part of the MS4 permit from the City’s side.

 

Discussion ensued regarding the City’s well-established Storm Water Management Fund, good relationships with area watershed districts and cooperative ventures to capture grant monies and partner with other agencies and jurisdictions to allow projects as outlined by Mr. Johnson.

 

Chair Vanderwall suggested that it would be beneficial for staff to develop and the PWETC to receive a Storm Sewer report, similar to the PMP, outlining an annual list of projects by priority for installation.

 

Mr. Culver advised that there was the potential to accomplish that, as there was a long list of potential projects and priority areas of concern; opining that there was also the potential for development of a Storm Water Capital Improvement Plan (CIP) to address those over a longer-term and plan them beyond just incorporating them into PMP and/or other projects.  Mr. Culver noted that it would be beneficial to take a deliberate look at stormwater improvements, including some larger areas requiring additional planning in cooperation with watershed districts and grants in developing long-term plans.

 

Chair Vanderwall suggested that the scope of projects include the top ten based on the most expensive to accomplish, as well as showing the low-hanging fruit to provide an idea of the scope of outstanding issues for the City of Roseville related to storm water management.

 

Mr. Culver noted that Kristine Giga, Civil Engineer for the City, had a strong background in water resources, and she was well on the way to developing a list of problem areas and prioritizing them.  Mr. Culver suggested that a future meeting could include an update and discussion for storm water management in subsequent years.

 

8.            Possible Items for Next Meeting – March 25, 2014

·         A review and clarification of the ownership and maintenance of water and sewer infrastructure in Roseville

Member DeBenedet requested a review and clarification of ownership and maintenance of the water and sewer infrastructure (e.g. homeowner or municipality).  Member DeBenedet noted that it had long been the usual case for municipalities to build the infrastructure systems, and then the homeowner or property owner be responsible for ongoing maintenance, even though they had not involvement in its design or observation during construction to determine if it was built correctly.  Member DeBenedet suggested that a discussion and review of those responsibilities would be beneficial for everyone.

 

Mr. Culver noted that this had also been brought up by Councilmember Etten at last night’s City Council meeting.  Mr. Culver noted that there were differences between cities as to whether or not the responsibility ended at the main, curb stop or property line; and advised that staff would be reviewing this more closely in the near future at an internal stall level to determine where best to start to address this issue.

 

Member DeBenedet noted that it could prove costly for the City, but opined that every resident was the “city,” and his first reaction tonight when seeing the map and pattern of freeze-ups was that the contractor for that area had installed the lines too shallow.

 

Mr. Culver expressed his hesitation in making that assumption without further investigation, even though some road projects were lowered and thereby reduced the depth.  Mr. Culver confirmed that the freeze-ups were occurring under roadways, driveways or other paved surfaces; and during this episode, were happening on the long end when the water main installation was located on the other side of the road and frost going deeper given this year’s ongoing cold weather.  Mr. Culver noted that water mains generally were installed 10’ deep, and sometimes lower and sometimes not that depth based on a variety of reasons; and further noted that it was difficult to install the service line deeper than the main, depending if the home was lower or higher than the roadway.  Mr. Culver opined that there were a number of contributing factors for shallower services at a particular point along that run beyond simply assigning blame to negligence in the initial installation.

 

Beyond those issues, Chair Vanderwall suggested the discussion should be more general in nature to consider whether there was something fair to be done to address these unusual circumstances.  Chair Vanderwall suggested that the City Attorney may want to provide his thoughts on potential liabilities as part of this discussion and how the City can strategize against future issues possibly as part of future road construction projects.  Chair Vanderwall suggested that information from the League of Minnesota Cities may also be helpful as part of that discussion.

 

·         Asset management update

Chair Vanderwall requested an update from staff on the status of the asset management data, whether fully implemented or the percentage completed to-date. 

 

Mr. Culver noted his favorable impressions with the work done to-date in Roseville and how extensive its use was for time tracking different tasks.  Mr. Culver noted the many opportunities remaining as individual assets came on line and expanding the tracking and data collection available with that software system.

 

·         Staff Reflections on the 2013/2014 Snow Management Process

Chair Vanderwall suggested that staff may wish to provide their comments and reflections on this past winter and advise the PWETC of lessons learned for future application (e.g. ice-control storage and material availability; staffing and financial resource issues, etc.).

 

Mr. Culver suggested that snow control and trail maintenance be included in that discussion as well.  Mr. Culver advised that, when the City ordered salt through the state contract, they were contractually obligated to take delivery of 80% of that order and could take up to 120%, based on the built-in buffer.  When the City, and other agencies, placed their order through the State contract, Mr. Culver advised that the materials were shipped on barges and stored in various facilities along the river, and delivered or picked up as needed.  Mr. Culver noted that it was a dynamic situation at this point for who got the materials first, and where they originated.  Mr. Culver advised that staff was also looking at a potential salt source out of Utah to be delivered by train through the Dakotas.  However, Mr. Culver noted that the delivery was also impacted by difficulty in finding track time for delivery.

 

·         Map of Ramsey County 2014/2015 proposed projects

Chair Vanderwall expressed interest in seeing this, and specifically the Lexington Avenue bridge at Highway 36.

 

·         Display of a sample half section of water pipe from the 2013 lining project using the test product from 3M.

 

9.            Adjourn

Member DeBenedet moved, Member Vanderwall seconded, adjournment of the meeting at approximately 8:43 p.m.

 

Ayes: 4

Nays: 0

Motion carried.

 

 

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