Roseville MN Homepage
Search
 

View Other Items in this Archive | View All Archives | Printable Version

Roseville Public Works, Environment and Transportation Commission


Meeting Minutes

Tuesday, August 25, 2015 at 6:30 p.m.

 

1.            Introduction / Call Roll

Chair Dwayne Stenlund called the meeting to order at approximately 6:30 p.m. and Public Works Director Marc Culver called the roll.

 

Members Present: Chair Dwayne Stenlund; Vice Chair Brian Cihacek; and Members Kody Thurnau, John Heimerl, Sarah Brodt Lenz; with Member Duane Seigler arriving at approximately 6:48 p.m.

 

Members Excused:  Member Joe Wozniak

 

Staff Present:          Public Works Director Marc Culver and City Engineer Jesse Freihammer

2.            Public Comments

 

3.            Approval of July 28, 2015 Meeting Minutes

Member Cihacek moved, Member Heimerl seconded, approval of the July 28, 2015, meeting as presented. 

 

Ayes: 5

Nays: 0

Motion carried.

 

4.            Communication Items

Public Works Director Culver and City Engineer Jesse Freihammer reviewed project updates and maintenance activities listed in the staff report dated August 25, 2015. 

 

At the request of Member Cihacek, Mr. Culver reported that with the I-35W and Cleveland Interchange Project coming in under bid, it would simply mean use of fewer tax increment financing (TIF) funds, since those are restricted to certain infrastructure uses, but noted that the additional $200,000 from the lower bid may be available for some of the smaller elements as alternates or options while work is being done in the area.  On a related note, Mr. Culver reported that the City Council had elected to bond for funds within that TIF District 17 allowing other projects eligible for funding rather than the District expiring and losing that funding option.

 

Member Cihacek asked if the additional funds could provide an opportunity for furthering the efforts of the Master Pathway Plan in that section.

 

Mr. Culver responded that was a good point and question, noting that sidewalk was already installed adjacent to Walmart, and will be extended as part of any new developments on the north side.  However, depending on the boundaries of TIF District 17, Mr. Culver suggested that may provide an opportunity to extend the sidewalk further than anticipated at this time, which he offered to look into. Mr. Culver noted this would allow for linking pathways along Twin Lakes Parkway as part of this project, especially into Langton Lake Park if TIF funding eligible since park expenses are not typically TIF eligible.

 

At the request of Chair Stenlund, Engineer Freihammer reviewed specifics of Pavement Maintenance Program (PMP) projects in more detail.

 

Member Lenz noted the need for better communication by Ramsey County with private citizens in timing their projects.

 

In response, Mr. Culver advised that the County and City attempted to coordinate their projects; however, he also noted the various efforts involved.  Mr. Culver noted that the City was not thrilled that Ramsey County?s Dale Street project was occurring during the Minnesota State Fair, since it may have full closures at times.  With several weddings also scheduled at Central Park during the project, Mr. Culver noted the considerable coordination between Ramsey County and the City of Roseville Parks & Recreation Department to limit impacts to that event, in addition to scheduled events at the Harriet Alexander Nature Center (HANC) during that time as well.  Mr. Culver sympathized with the concerns and frustration expressed by Member Lenz, but noted as with many projects it depended somewhat on whether a project was done in-house or by an outside contractor given a window of work and completion date deadlines.  Mr. Culver further noted the current busy contractor climate, requiring the need to provide some flexibility to avoid excess costs and allow coordination of work among contractors and subcontractors.

 

Mr. Culver reported that unfortunately it would be a similar situation in 2016 with work on the I-35W and Cleveland Interchange and Twin Lakes Parkway projects, with several contractors working in the same general area, creating ongoing challenges to be monitored and coordinated.

 

Chair Stenlund reminded PWETC members of opportunities for their involvement and leadership in volunteering for various Parks & Recreation Commission projects, encouraging members to help spread the word about citizen involvement in the community.

 

Mr. Culver announced an upcoming Roseville University session scheduled on October 8. 2015 at 6:30 p.m. that will focus on sewer maintenance and connections, in addition to roadway maintenance, encouraging Members to attend as well as alerting interested neighbors and citizens.

Member Seigler arrived at this time, approximately 6:48 p.m.

 

5.            Leaf Disposal Outreach and Education Discussion

Mr. Culver noted that, in addition to the newsletter article copy included in the agenda materials and a U of MN information sheet on leaf disposal options that he thought provided a good narrative on options for residents, he was distributing four additional bench handouts, attached hereto and made a part hereof.  Those included: ?City of Roseville Leaf Pickup Program,? providing residents with alternatives for the program after this year and disposal sites and potential vendors for hauling intended as a utility bill insert; ?2015 City of Roseville Residential Leaf Pickup Authorization? card along with on-line registration for residents wishing to take part in this year?s program; ?2015 Roseville Residential Leaf Pickup Program October 28 ? November 13,? alerting residents that 2015 will be the final year for this city-coordinated program and the tentative pickup schedule; and ?another handout providing alternatives for removal.  Mr. Culver advised that staff continues to gather information on private vendors with the intent to post it this fall and in 2016 online regarding options; and a website section detailing many options and an updated contractor list similar to ?Angie?s List,? that will provide vendor options, not recommendations.

 

At the request of Member Cihacek, Mr. Culver advised that staff had not intended to provide a targeted outreach of current customers of the leaf pickup program to let them know the program would not be offered in 2016; with Member Cihacek suggested that be done.  Member Cihacek opined those customers would be the most highly impacted versus those not currently using the program; and should reduce future communication costs.

 

At the request of Member Cihacek, Mr. Culver confirmed that Eureka Recycling did not currently offer yard waste as part of their program.

 

Member Cihacek further suggested timing communication efforts and leaf disposal options for next spring and summer by cell within the community the purchase of composting barrels and rain barrels for purchase by residents, including in-house workshops on composting, mulching and other options.  Member Cihacek noted the U of MN Extension Service provided an excellent resource for this education/communication effort.

 

Member Cihacek asked if rain barrels were offered at contractor rates to residents. 

 

Mr. Culver advised that they were generally offered in the spring ? both composting bins and rail barrels ? as a pass-through by the City with no mark-up in cost.

 

Member Cihacek suggested having the contractor offer savings to the City for multiple purchases.

 

Mr. Culver responded that the cost is minimal, estimated at $50 each, and while staff could look into bulk purchasing the bins and barrels, the problem was that the City had no place to store the excess.

 

Member Cihacek suggested structuring the contract for delivery on an as-needed basis, or available for local purchase (e.g. Home Depot, etc.) or a cooperative purchase with other communities.  Member Cihacek opined that this would allow for support from a customer basis and cost benefit, as well as encouraging the option.  Member Cihacek further opined that, if the City could offer a one-year specialized discount in 2016 to encourage residents to pursue that option and help them transition into this non-leaf pickup program, it would serve to benefit the entire community and water quality efforts.

 

Chair Stenlund provided his research from the Internet, that he had entitled ?Compost 101,? that could serve to offer educational components on composting blades for lawnmowers and explain how a mulching mower worked.  Chair Stenlund noted that both items could be found at local hardware stores, and noted by promoting this for local Roseville businesses that rent or stock this type of equipment, it would be a win/win for that business and residents.  Chair Stenlund also noted the local and regional companies he?d researched online that provided those items, and recommended that information as well as how to compost and the science behind it, be included as part of the educational/informational efforts initiated by staff.

 

Customer basis supported, cost benefit, encourage project ? if we can offer one-year specialized discount next year to encourage people to pursue that option and help residents transition into this non-leaf program service

 

Chair Stenlund suggested providing information to Roseville residents, and for consideration of facilitating private/public service efforts through the School District as potential fundraising programs for high school students who could potentially bring leaf grinders directly to the yards of elderly citizens.  Chair Stenlund suggested a pilot ?Mulch Saturday,? for youth and/or civic groups to offer en educational component as well as information, and offer savings and help for lawn care.  Chair Stenlund opined there wouldn?t be too many residents remaining uninformed with these various efforts; although he anticipated several homes placing their leaves curbside expecting them to be picked up.

 

Member Lenz spoke in support of the ?Compost 101? concept; and suggested Eagle Service projects as an option as well.

 

Mr. Culver advised that staff tries to be diligent in determining which customers were receiving services and had paid for them versus those taking advantage of the service and not paying the annual fee for pickup.  However, Mr. Culver agreed that he expected to find a situation with some leaves still placed curbside for pickup by the City due to lack of attention or simply out of habit.

Chair Stenlund noted this would be a great opportunity to provide related information on why no seeds or lawn clippings should be considered debris in discharge locations, no matter a resident?s opinion of government, in an effort to protect and/or improve water quality for all.  Chair Stenlund noted this review could serve as a quantifiable in the City?s MS4 annual report as well.

 

Mr. Culver advised that staff would incorporated this additional educational material and/or links on the City?s website.  Mr. Culver reported that he expected this to be an annual educational effort in the September newsletters starting in 2016.

 

Member Thurnau suggested starting the educational efforts earlier in the spring and throughout summer/fall to address lawn care basics and how that affected the environment with practices on our private property as much as public properties (e.g. streets).

 

Member Cihacek concurred, suggesting the educational component may prove interesting; and asked if there were capacity concerns at available lawn waste sites.

 

Mr. Culver advised that, historically the City dropped leaves picked up curbside to those sites, while other times they were delivered to other locations, depending on the time of the year and their volume.  Mr. Culver noted that one problem was with contractors sometimes bringing their leaves to a site and ongoing challenges in verifying Roseville leaves are going into the Roseville compost site.  With the demand for compost throughout the year, Mr. Culver advised that using it was not problematic, but allowing time for processing it and room to move and turn the piles often became a challenge in some years.  Due to those issues, Mr. Culver advised that the City had found some partnership opportunities with other firms using that material for some of their own soil blending for organics.  Mr. Culver noted that there was more contamination in yard waste compost than in the City?s leaf pickup program, with some timing issues for marketing the compost.  Mr. Culver opined that staff didn?t anticipate a lot more leaves coming to the sites when discontinuing the pickup program; but noted it would prove interesting to see where contractor leaves showed up, which would create a challenge for them as well.

 

At the request of Chair Stenlund, Mr. Culver reviewed current Ramsey County Yard Waste sites (Highway 96, Dale Street, Pierce Butler, etc.) and offered to provide a map online of their locations similar to that of Ramsey County?s hazardous waste sites.

 

Chair Stenlund stated, from his perspective, it may be more problematic for a resident ? if not mulching or composting ? to transport the leaves without having their own trailer for transport or hiring a contractor to haul them.  Chair Stenlund asked how that situation could be addressed for residents, especially those unable to pay for those services or unable to haul it off-site themselves.  Noting recent discussions about organized and community-based garbage collection, Chair Stenlund suggested a ?community trailer? for someone to use and/or interact with their neighbors.  While this would be infrequently used, Chair Stenlund noted opined that it would foster community level involvement and get leaves hauled to a mapped location.

 

Member Seigler noted that he simply put the leaves in trash bags and hauled them in his truck; opining it wasn?t the City?s job to move people?s leaves, with indications that 95% had already figured it out and only 5% remained.

 

With Member Cihacek noted the option proposed for haulers providing the service on the City?s website, Member Seigler clarified that Chair Stenlund was looking for a free transport service for those elderly or unable to pay for a hauler or having access to a trailer.

 

Member Cihacek suggested the community needed to come together for a contract versus the City, or neighbors getting together on a hauler and price, but putting the burden on them, as long as the City provides the information for them.

 

Member Thurnau noted several neighborhood associations in Roseville, as well as the work of the Community Engagement Commission (CEC) working on what associations would look like, suggesting this may be an option for them, to organize certain areas or neighborhoods as logical sectors to work on pickup management.

 

Member Heimerl suggested educational opportunities during National Night Out or during that time period, to present this information to block captains and get neighbors talking to one another at which time they could coordinate trailers and needs, with block coordination to help the remaining percentage get leaves off their property for the benefit of the entire neighborhood.  Member Heimerl also noted the potential to push community fundraising opportunities, with donations for pickup for school organizations or school sports team or faith-based organizations, where students living in a particular neighborhood or spread throughout the neighborhood could work cooperatively to provide the service and reap the benefits.  Even if donation based, Member Heimerl opined that there would be more money in raking and transporting leaves versus bagging groceries for a fundraising effort.  Member Heimerl opined that the City was doing a good job in getting the information out and educating the public, but opportunities may be available to encourage community-based services until private industry stepped up in the future.

 

Chair Stenlund stated his anticipation of a one-year problem as this change occurs, but not thereafter. 

 

Chair Stenlund and Member Cihacek asked staff for an update as a future communications highlight.

 

Solar Installation Update

While not originally planned for this month, Mr. Culver provided an update based on City Council action in approving a nonbinding Letter of Intent with Sundial Solar, and next steps as Sundial began shopping for tax equity partners.

 

Member Lenz expressed the difficulty she was having in understanding financing for this solar option, and asked staff to provide a future ?Solar Financing 101? report.

 

Member Seigler also asked for very brief information presented by staff in the near future on the absolute worst case scenario in six years and associated risks, both initial risks and risks over time at the 6 or 7 year mark.

 

Mr. Culver recognized the complexities involved and sympathized with areas of confusion for PWETC members, and advised staff would prepare a synopsis for a future meeting.  Under the Sundial proposal, Mr. Culver did report preliminarily that there was no upfront cost to the city at year 6 or 7, at which time there would be a 5% payback of fair market value for purchase by the City with the remainder a 95% charitable donation from Sundial investors to the City.  Mr. Culver advised that the overall savings remained an unknown depending on the various programs available now and at the end of the term, and dependent on Xcel and solar capacity credits and whether those programs remain active in continuing that credit.  Mr. Culver noted that not only are the components complex, but will also be subject to change over time, with future energy costs dictating actual savings to be realized.  Mr. Culver advised that staff would provide this much more detailed analysis to the PWETC as requested and hopefully make the proposal clearer.

 

Member Seigler reiterated his request for an overview of the City?s risk.

 

Mr. Culver reported that, based on the City Council?s review and Letter of Intent, Sundial Solar showed an approximate cost of $7,000 ? $8,000 in annual maintenance costs for the system, or the actual service they would provide if something went wrong and as they consistently monitor the energy used, they receive an alert for any problem on the system, with troubleshooting and labor included by Sundial and the City only responsible for the cost of any new equipment as an option after the 6th year.  Mr. Culver advised that for the first six years, the maintenance costs would be wrapped into the financing terms as negotiated.

 

At the request of Member Lenz, Mr. Culver confirmed that the City was not prohibited in having only one contract, and could easily solicit proposals for other roofs (e.g. fire station, public works maintenance garage), with the Skating Center roof chosen as the first and largest rooftop and without existing accessories on the roof, one area of concern with the public works maintenance garage having more skylights, HVAC systems, etc.  At the request of Member Lenz, Mr. Culver advised that the City could seek different sized systems and layer onto them as long as the Made in Minnesota Program offers continued to apply.  Mr. Culver opined that he saw the City coming up with a long-term plan for solar system on all city-owned building rooftops; and coupled with that he intended to recommend seeking solar community shares to offset the City?s energy consumption.  Mr. Culver clarified that he was still not proposing that the City served as a host, but shares would be good for the City and its residents in offsetting energy costs.

 

At the request of Member Seigler, Mr. Culver confirmed that the City?s application in the lottery system through its Letter of Intent, with word anticipated yet this fall as to that success of that application.

 

As an administrator of that lottery program, Member Cihacek reported that proposals are due August 31, 2015 at which time they would each be evaluated and scored according to an established process; then proceed into the lottery system.  Member Cihacek anticipated knowing those results by the September 2015 PWETC meeting and recommendation as to contract award or not, for final recommendation ? if successful ? for the October or November 2015 City Council meetings for their review and approval as applicable.

 

At the request of Mr. Culver, Member Cihacek reported that approximately 30 communities expressed interest in the lottery program, representing 350 megawatts of demand.  Member Cihacek noted it was a complex process with the lottery system and expressed his hope that it went quickly.

 

6.            Items for September Agenda

·         Solar Installation Update at St. Christopher?s Church off TH 36 and Hamline Avenue (Stenlund)

Chair Stenlund expressed his personal interest and for the benefit of the community in hearing from representatives of the church about this solar installation, the concept itself, lessons learned, etc.

 

Mr. Culver noted the project highlighted at the recent Living Green program, advising that this project was the first to take advantage of financing through the St. Paul Port Authority (SPAA), authorized by the City of Roseville to guarantee collection if the church defaulted on this financing by assessing their property the amount of the loan.  Mr. Culver expressed interest in seeing if this prompted any other interested parties in Roseville in doing so.  Mr. Culver opined the SPAA was a great program and anticipated more panels popping throughout Roseville as more interest and incentives are made available.

 

·         Water/Sewer Service Review as charged by the City Council (Culver)

Mr. Culver referenced multiple solutions presented by staff previously for the PWETC?s research and review, in addition to the liability caps proposed as an option by Member Seigler as a starting discussion point.  Mr. Culver noted the need for more information as well as financial analyses.

 

Member Seigler expressed interest in learning of any insurance companies covering water line damage/freezing, similar to those offering supplemental coverage for sanitary sewer backups; and suggested an expert in the field could be asked to provide an overview or present more information to the PWETC.

 

Mr. Culver reported that the City?s insurance partner, League of Minnesota Cities Insurance Trust (LMCIT), could present that information.

 

Member Cihacek expressed interest in a program for the water utility, such as done with sanitary sewer, in capping the cost for the City with some funding provided; but at what point it can or should be provided; requesting an update from staff on the process if the information is not currently available.

 

Mr. Culver advised that staff would begin its analysis, including adjustments needed for existing rates as an option for funding that prospect.

 

Member Cihacek suggested one option may be a self-insurance fund, with additional information needed in how such a fund could be structured and how to ensure it would remain solvent over time; and what funds could or could not be used for that, including repairs and/or secondary costs.

 

Also, Chair Stenlund expressed interest in defining if and when construction projects or maintenance efforts provided a view of those lateral ports on the City side versus their connection to the main; and how and when a clean-out maintenance program could be implemented.

 

Member Lenz asked for a graphic explanation and brief summary of how to better understand the how and where of those connections, etc.

 

Mr. Culver offered to start with that ?Sewer 101? overview at the September meeting as a good starting point.  With this topic part of a Roseville University session scheduled one to two weeks after the September PWETC meeting, Mr. Culver noted it would provide an incentive to get those materials prepared sooner rather than later.

 

Mr. Culver asked if September?s PWETC meeting was focusing on sewer issues, should the October meeting focus on the water service.

 

Member Cihacek suggested a ?Water 101? and ?Sewer 101?presentation and discussion to make sure everyone was on the same page; however, he questioned if water issues were the same as those of sewer based on age and longevity, and suggested a specific review of the problems for each of those utilities.  Based on prior discussions, Member Cihacek noted the need to determine whether or not the City knew the condition of its infrastructure and how that data is tracked.  Therefore, Member Cihacek suggested the sewer liability and insurance discussion in September followed by the water system in October, with ongoing discussions of affiliated issues continued into the winter PWETC meetings.

 

·         Sump Pump Update (Seigler)

Member Seigler asked if sufficient information was available as to the number of sump pumps flowing into the sanitary sewer mains, or if the PWETC should wait until the program was finalized.

 

Mr. Culver advised that 75% to 80% of Ferguson installations should be done by October.  However, Mr. Culver clarified that until installations done in May and June, sump pump inspections were not being done, and therefore the data would not be complete other than some random sampling data that may suffice.  Mr. Culver suggested waiting until the December PWETC meeting once a fuller picture was available, offering a great discussion about next steps and recommendations to the City Council.

 

·         Salt/Chloride Use During Winter for Ice Control (Seigler)

Member Seigler sought an update from staff on ongoing issues with use of salt for de-icing efforts.

 

Mr. Culver advised that chloride entering the public water system continued to be a growing concern, especially with the possibility of the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency (MPCA) implementing Total Daily Maximum Loads (TMDL) and associated reporting requirements and regulations.  Mr. Culver noted that obviously the easiest target was public agencies ? the state, counties and cities ? and potential future restrictions limiting their use.  While this was difficult to mandate on the private sector side, Mr. Culver noted it was a valid discussion for public entities as more information became available on those regulatory mandates.

 

·         Snelling Avenue Bus Rapid Transit Update (after Minnesota State Fair)

 

·         Revisit Master Pathway Program and Rescoring Protocols (Stenlund)

 

Chair Stenlund clarified that he wasn?t suggesting it be redone from a public works perspective, but seeking consistency in the scoring as part of an overall review of priorities.

 

Member Cihacek opined it was good to look at the program in light of current future construction goals to determine if that information or infrastructure has changed since the last review.

 

Chair Stenlund also expressed interest in hearing public comment on how the County Road B system is working for residents, as well as speed adjustments made as part of that improvement.

 

Generally speaking, Mr. Culver expressed interest in the follow-up concept including that for other recent sidewalk installation areas.  While not hearing a lot of comments to-date, and presuming that meant ?no news is good news,? Mr. Culver agreed that an update would be prudent, since he had fielded no complaints from residents over the summer on prevailing speeds now and any speed issues, with the reduction in speed form 40 mph to 35 mph along that segment of County Road B.

 

·         Miscellaneous

Mr. Culver reported that there would be no follow-up necessary based on the PWETC?s recent community tour, other than to add future conditions and information available to the map.

 

Member Cihacek noted the potential and fairly significant expansion project at Rosedale Center and asked for a staff update as part of their communication items at the next meeting.

 

Mr. Culver advised that the initial conversation would occur at next week?s Planning Commission meeting for a proposed new anchor, increasing the mall?s square footage significantly and including a proposed parking structure as the new retail space would be located where current parking is located.  Mr. Culver reported that a traffic study was already under discussion, and between the Planning Commission and City Council future mitigation efforts required of the applicants would be defined including any additional studies.  Mr. Culver advised that at a minimum additional stormwater mitigation for such a large increase in square footage would need review and mitigation recommendations by the watershed district and City.  Mr. Culver stated that the City may opt to partner with Rosedale Center and the watershed district to expand the proposed stormwater system to address a broader area, one which already experiences existing capacity issues north of Fairview Avenue.  Mr. Culver noted that any added flow from Rosedale flowing north up to County Road C would indicate additional mitigation for the regional system.  Mr. Culver advised that staff would be working on those issues over the next few months, and would keep the PWETC updated as applicable.

 

Member Cihacek noted now would be the time for the PWETC to make any recommended improvements, and asked if that discussion should be flagged as part of the December 2015/January 2016 PWETC meetings.

 

Mr. Culver advised that, at this point, he was unsure of the timeline until final plat approval was granted at which time the City?s ability to provide suggestions or input would conclude.  Mr. Culver suggested that be part of staff?s communication item updates as applicable; and encouraged PWETC members to follow the Planning Commission and City Council agenda for that specific item, with staff bringing forward updates in future  PWETC meeting packets as well.

 

·         Future Tour Options

Chair Stenlund suggested future PWETC tours could include the solar array at St. Christopher?s, and the Eureka Recycling Plant (MERF).

 

Chair Stenlund noted the Eureka Recycling Contract was coming up soon, and the need for reviewing and refining criteria for a new request for proposals (RFP) for a best value recycling contract would be needed, asking that staff allow sufficient time for a thoughtful process in developing that criteria based on today?s recycling market.

 

Mr. Culver duly noted that request, advising that it may actually supersede some of the other items listed as the PWETC started assembling pieces for the next round of proposals for recommendation to the City Council, with the current contract set to expire the end of 2016.  Mr. Culver noted that part of that updated criteria included whether or not organic recycling was possible under Ramsey County?s mandate; and advised that the Eureka contract expiration coincided with that of the City of St. Paul as well, which may impact requests for proposals and any future contract negotiations and pricing.  Mr. Culver noted that the City would be seeking assistance from Ramsey County for that process; but admitted it was a good idea to revisit the past proposal and identify the last two years of experience and items to add, change or remove for the next RFP.  Mr. Culver suggested this initial discussion occur before the end of 2015.

 

Mr. Culver advised that with a these good topics to cover in the coming months, staff would work through them accordingly for a timely order to consider and implement into future agendas, and provide updates from staff as needed.

 

7.            Adjourn

Cihacek moved, Thurnau seconded, adjournment of the meeting at approximately 7:57 p.m.

 

Cihacek not at October meeting ? work related

 

Ayes: 6

Nays: 0

Motion carried.

 

 

  1. Roseville MN Homepage

Contact Us

  1. Roseville City Hall

  2. 2660 Civic Center Drive

  3. Roseville, MN 55113


  4. Monday - Friday
    8:00 a.m. - 4:30 p.m.


  5. Phone: 651-792-7000

  6. Email Us

<---- Userway script----->
Arrow Left Arrow Right
Slideshow Left Arrow Slideshow Right Arrow