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Meeting Minutes

Tuesday, May 24, 2016 at 6:30 p.m.

 

  1. Introduction / Call Roll / Swearing in of New Members

Vice Chair Lenz called the meeting to order at approximately 6:30 p.m. and Assistant Public Works Director Jesse Freihammer called the roll.

 

Present:        Vice Chair Sarah Brodt Lenz; and Members Joe Wozniak, John Heimerl, Thomas Trainor, and Duane Seigler; with Chair Brian Cihacek arriving at approximately 6:35 p.m.

 

Excused:        Member Kody Thurnau

 

Staff Present:          Assistant Public Works Director Jesse Freihammer and Environmental Engineer Ryan Johnson

 

  1. Public Comments

None.

 

Vice Chair Lenz announced vacancies on the Human Rights and Community Engagement Commissions, along with the appointment process and schedule.

 

Chair Cihacek arrived at this time, approximately 6:35 p.m. and Vice Chair Lenz turned the gavel over to him.

 

  1. Election of Ethics Commission Member

With no other PWETC members expressing interesting in serving on the Ethics Commission, Chair Cihacek volunteered to do so, and without objection he was so appointed.

 

  1. Approval of April 26, 2016 Meeting Minutes

Member Wozniak moved, Member Heimerl seconded, approval of the April 24, 2016 meeting minutes as amended

 

Corrections:

·         Page 1, Line 3 (Recording Secretary)

Correction: Assistant Public Works Director Jesse Freihammer called the roll.

·         Page 3, Line 85 (Wozniak)

Typographical correction: Change “revised” to “reviewed”

 

Ayes: 6

Nays: 0

Motion carried.

 

  1. Communication Items

Assistant Public Works Director Jesse Freihammer provided additional comments and a brief review and update on projects and maintenance activities listed in the staff report dated May 24, 2016. 

 

Discussion included: Staff’s identification of the four contractors submitting Recycling RFPs; and Highway 36 construction detour routes confirmed and on effects to ramps at Dale Street and Hamline Avenue at Highway 36.

 

Cherrywood Pointe Project

At the request of Member Lenz, Mr. Freihammer advised that a Public Improvement Contract between the developer and city had been approved by the City Council to address costs by the developer for roads and other infrastructure, including relocation of a sanitary sewer line on the property and installation of several additional sidewalk segments along a portion of Lexington Avenue and Woodhill Drive as part of the developer’s project expense. 

 

At the further request of Member Lenz, Mr. Freihammer noted that the sidewalk segments on Woodhill Drive would not connect with other segments in the immediate future.

 

City Planner Thomas Paschke advised that the United Properties project further east on Woodhill Drive at Victoria Street would provide additional sidewalk segments as well and result in a smaller gap to address moving forward, with the individual developers paying for the cost of the segments and further reducing the city’s cost.

 

  1. Tree Credit Program

Interim Community Development Director Kari Collins and City Planner Thomas Paschke were present to receive feedback from the PWETC on a pending city policy related to tree replacement on adjacent private property or public property city wide, and in establishing a policy on tree replacement fund expenditures in lieu of replacements.

 

City Planner Paschke provided a brief presentation on the draft policy features to-date to help facilitate discussion with commissioners to solicit their input.

 

Mr. Paschke reviewed the direction from the City Council instructing staff to draft the tree replacement policy as represented in Attachment A, and consult with the PWETC and Parks & Recreation Commission.  Mr. Paschke reviewed some discussion points to facilitate and solicit that input (Attachment B). 

 

Mr. Paschke reviewed the Tree Preservation Ordinance and need for language built into city code for replacement of trees on public property if unable to be accommodated on the development site itself via a designated formula. Mr. Paschke advised that the City Council had approved a $500 per tree required in lieu of tree replacement based on caliper size of the removed trees.  In summary, Mr. Paschke advised the developer could replace the trees on their site or within a certain area, or pay a fee accordingly.

 

Attachment A

Member Seigler stated that he was not familiar with this tree policy at all.

 

Mr. Paschke reiterated that this was a new policy, still in draft form, and was being undertaken subsequent to the City Council’s recently revised and now approved tree preservation ordinance adopted for any and all developments for preservation or replacement on site of by other means (e.g. fee) or replacement on other sites.  Using several of the more recent community development projects, Mr. Paschke provided examples.

 

At the request of Member Lenz, Mr. Paschke confirmed that this policy would not affect private property, but would function somewhat similarly to the city’s designated Park Dedication Fund except this would affect developments of three or more lots (e.g. Wheaton Woods Project off Dale Street and Wheaton Avenue) with review of submitted tree plans.

 

Member Seigler asked if adjacent communities had similar policies.

 

Mr. Paschke responded that many metropolitan municipalities had such policies, especially now when urban communities were trying to preserve green space and mature trees.  Mr. Paschke advised that he didn’t have a list of those communities available, but was aware that the City of St. Paul did NOT have a tree preservation policy.  Mr. Paschke noted it was difficult to compare policies as they varied so much based on other city-specific regulations, but admitted that staff had found few policies as extensive as Roseville City Code.  As previously noted, Mr. Paschke advised that it was typical in a suburban landscape to preserve tree coverage, and the goal was to find a spot for trees being removed, and if not to require a fee of $500 per tree removed.

 

Mr. Paschke advised that the city’s intent is to get ahead of the policy before accumulating funding in the tree replacement fund for expending those dollars, and beyond just finding appropriate locations around the city.  Mr. Paschke noted that staff was tasked with working with property owners to provide appropriate screening on their development sites for adjacent property owners, and thereby target the development area first.  Mr. Paschke stated that one possibility that may be of particular interest to the P WETC in expenditure of those funds would be public improvement projects in the general area or within a 1/4 mile of the subject site.  If unable to get closer, Mr. Paschke noted that the question then became where else in the community can we look to provide additional tree coverage.

 

At the request of Member Lenz, Mr. Paschke clarified that the replacement trees would be brand new and typically would not involve relocating trees from one property to another.

 

Interim Community Development Director Collins confirmed they would be brand new trees, with staff already charged by city code to review the number of trees being removed and available space to plant new trees as dictated by the City Council’s adopted calculations.  Ms. Collins noted that the goal was to provide the same amount of coverage if possible; but when that is not an option, provision by the developer of cash in lieu of tree replacement, or some other solution with property owners is indicated.

 

At the request of Chair Cihacek, Mr. Paschke advised that the determination of $500 per tree for cash in lieu of had been provided by the city’s contracted forester as a fair cost for a tree of a certain diameter, and actually was on the lower end of the cost of the tree plus labor, depending on species and other parameters.  Mr. Paschke advised that this was all part of the developer/property owner’s application process and submission of a tree and landscaping plan as part of that application package.  Again, Mr. Paschke used a recent development, Cherrywood Point, as an example of tree replacement calculations and plans, as part of the overall development proposal.

 

Specific to the final sub-bullet point (Determination of tree replacement funds on public lands within the general area or one-quarter mile from the subject project site), Chair Cihacek opined that seemed to him duplicative with the first point (retention of tree fund expenditures within the general area of the subject development/redevelopment site or one-quarter mile), and questioned if it was needed.

 

Member Lenz agreed that it seemed duplicative.

 

While they appear similar, Mr. Paschke clarified that one bullet point was pointed toward public land within that quarter-mile, while the other was intended to address removal of trees and their replacement elsewhere (e.g. sewer reconstruction needed through an existing treed area).

 

Chair Cihacek suggested the need for the policy to define “public improvement” and “public land;” but reiterated his interpretation that the fourth bullet point may not be necessary nor did it add anything to the policy.

 

Member Lenz expressed concern that under this proposed language, a tree credit may only be applicable in one area, while in another area of Roseville, with Emerald Ash Borer (EAB) infestation and in need of trees, replacement trees may not be considered if more than one-quarter mile away from the project site.

 

Chair Cihacek agreed, noting the benefit of trees was citywide, and additional forest added while some is removed, should be allowed in a larger area and not geographical restricted, but available anywhere within Roseville city limits whether in public parks or collaborative areas.

 

At the request of Member Wozniak for staff’s rationale in specifying the language of the draft policy, Mr. Paschke noted the goal was to keep tree replacement closer to the project area, since those resources (trees) had been removed from that area and should be kept in that same general area versus spreading them throughout the city.

 

Member Lenz suggested the goal could be replacement nearby, but allow for flexibility in a broader area if indicated.

 

In defense of the PWETC’s suggested broader replacement scope, Chair Cihacek noted that while adjacent properties could be considered first, and then second any other public land; more to the point was that there remained disparities in community-wide foresting.  Chair Cihacek noted these disparities may be due to past public works projects, windstorms, disease or other removals that had yet to be replaced.  Therefore, if a mechanism was built into this policy that could provide an opportunity to replace those lost trees, geographical limits should not be stipulated, and may prove less onerous to the developer to meet the city’s requirements.

 

Ms. Collins thanked the PWETC for their good input.

 

From a personal perspective, Member Seigler noted a discussion at last month’s PWETC meeting that the city can dictate whether or not a lot is too small to build a larger garage based on easements in place that may be larger than necessary or never intended for use.  Member Seigler noted that now this is yet another fine going into city funds and dictating further restrictions.  Member Seigler expressed concern that the city was getting into the “fining” business.

 

Mr. Paschke clarified that the city never got out of that “fining” business, but maybe simply didn’t actively pursue it based on the ebb and flow of staff resources and/or the complaint-driven code enforcement process.  Using the city’s sign ordinance as an example, Mr. Paschke noted that staff isn’t always available or cognizant to inappropriate activity, but when observed, they may get fines.

 

Member Seigler noted that in a community of Roseville’s age, a residential property owner should be able to, at a minimum build a two-car garage to replace an inadequate one-car garage, both from a practical standpoint for their use as well as for re-sale value of the home.

 

Ms. Collins suggested that a finer distinction between “fine” and “fee” may be needed.  Ms. Collins clarified that a “fine” is for violation of city code; while a “fee” such as proposed in this case, and part of larger scale developments is intended to encourage developers to make sure adequate space is available to replace trees, and to encourage developers to look seriously where they may put additional tree coverage as protection for adjacent property owners (e.g. screening).  Ms. Collins recognized the PWETC’s perception of the proposed policy; however, she advised that staff was working with developers who were very receptive to the city’s comprehensive plan guidelines, and the desire by the community to reduce paved surfaces and keep things more green in Roseville.  As the city moves forward, Ms. Collins opined that she anticipated most developers finding places for replacement trees versus expending cash in lieu of planting trees.

 

Mr. Paschke reiterated the goal was to have developers preserve as many trees on site as possible, with a unique eye to preserve as many mature trees as possible and design around them accordingly versus allowing clear cutting lots; with the tree preservation and replacement in place to penalize any developers choosing to remove larger, mature trees.

 

Chair Cihacek stated his support for replacing good trees, but noted his preference for removing geographical limitations and allow multiple places and options for replacing those trees off-site as necessary.

 

Ms. Collins reported that the Roseville Economic Development Authority (REDA) would be meeting tomorrow evening, and at that time would be looking at options provided by their consultant to ensure that Roseville’s programs were not too restrictive for developers.

 

Member Heimerl asked how the two-year timeframe had been determined, and ramifications for a developer if they were unable to identify a replacement site within the timeframe or be subject to the fee.

 

Mr. Paschke advised that the goal was once the project is known and that fees will be necessary as part of their tree restoration plan, staff would then determine how those dollars would be used for completion within that two year timeframe.

 

Related to visibility of funds, Member Heimerl suggested that by the city collecting fees in escrow for up to two years, two years may be too long, and questioned why a decision couldn’t be made sooner.

 

Mr. Paschke clarified that the full two-years is not intended in all cases, but noted that sometimes there may be significant time before a tree can be planted, depending on the location, weather, season, species, etc. and this two-year timeframe was intended to allow  some flexibility.

 

At the request of Chair Cihacek, Mr. Paschke and Ms. Collins advised that the two-year clock started upon the City Council’s approval of a final plat.

 

Specific to tree installation, Chair Cihacek asked if it was the intent that the city or a contractor replaces the tree, or if the city would assist the developer in finding a contractor to do the work.

 

Mr. Paschke stated that this was a good point, and it may depend on whether the city could find bidders or if a developer hired a contractor to plant the trees; with Ms. Collins further clarifying that it would depend on the scope of the project and number of trees to be planted.

 

Member Seigler asked staff for an example of public lands with tree shortages.

 

Mr. Paschke advised that he was unable to accurately identify those sites immediately tonight, but noted that trees were planted in city parks on an annual basis, whether due to disease, replacement of dead trees, or need for additional trees.

 

Ms. Collins noted that staff’s next stop would be at the Parks & Recreation Commission, opining this would be a good question for them to address and to identify their priorities for trees on public lands.

 

Chair Cihacek asked the city’s Environmental Engineer Ryan Johnson how this would roll into stormwater management or remediation for the city, and support for impact on this proposed policy.

 

Environmental Engineer Johnson responded that basically trees fell into a stormwater best management practices (BMP) category, and confirmed that a canopy of mature trees reduced rain volume flow throughout the community.  Mr. Johnson noted that such BMPs could be incorporated into stormwater projects as another option to treat water and slow down volume since only so much water could be stored via other options.  As additional options are considered, such as tree canopies, Mr. Johnson admitted there would be considerable benefit to keeping or adding trees in specific areas throughout the community. As an example, Mr. Johnson referenced the wetland replacement on Victoria north of Roselawn with trees added recently in this sensitive area adjacent to a wetland, and those trees adding a secondary benefit.  From an engineering and environmental perspective, Mr. Johnson stated “trees are a good thing.”

 

On behalf of the City Council and city staff, Ms. Collins thanked the PWETC for their feedback on this draft policy.

 

  1. MS4 Public Hearing

At approximately 7:10 p.m., Chair Cihacek opened and closed the public hearing for the purpose of receiving public comment regarding the City’s stormwater pollution prevention program (SWPPP), with no one appearing to speak for or against.

 

Presentation

National Pollutant Discharge Elimination System (NPDES) 2015 Annual Report for Municipal Separate Storm sewer System (MS4) by City Environmental Engineer Ryan Johnson

As detailed in the staff report and related attachments, Mr. Johnson provided an overview of the city’s management of stormwater discharge into public waters in Roseville and the region.  Mr. Johnson reviewed various outreach and educational efforts and best management practices (BMPs) over the last year and those proposed moving forward.

 

Specific to Chair Cihacek’s question regarding the dredging costs of $24,000 at the stormwater pond (Byerly’s Pond), and associated cost savings available, Mr. Johnson reviewed the deterioration of the pond over time, as part of the city’s infrastructure.  Mr. Johnson noted water was not draining off Lincoln Drive, with the street infrastructure therefore inundated with water, causing those concrete pipes continuously under water to break down and need replaced.  If the ponds do not function as intended, and sediment goes out onto County Road C, and Ramsey County ultimately inspects that area, Mr. Johnson advised that they would require the city to clean the pond at their timing.  Mr. Johnson further noted that the sediment could eventually flow into Bennett Lake, a Department of Natural Resources (DNR) protected wetland.  Overall, Mr. Johnson noted the benefit was to do the cleaning now, and return the function to its intended status.

 

Chair Cihacek questioned why cattails were considered bad in ponds or to its ecosystem; and if and when prairie grass or other vegetation is designed specifically for other water retention areas or other functions.

 

Mr. Johnson responded that he considered vegetation not only to treat stormwater, but also to aid natural habitat, adding additional values versus having a simple pond.  Mr. Johnson noted this provided aesthetic appeal, as well as insect, frog and bird habitat versus turf grass.  Relative to cattails, Mr. Johnson stated he considered them fine around the edges but not in the middle of a drainage pond indicating to him that the pond has reached a point that it needs cleaning out.  Mr. Johnson noted their growth meant stormwater retention was slowing down and the pond was not functioning as intended from a drainage aspect.

 

At the prompting of Mr. Freihammer, Mr. Johnson confirmed that native plants were planted on this site, using wetland seeds specifically specified by the Minnesota Department of Transportation (MnDOT) for native plantings and short grass prairie, with turf grass above that.

 

Mr. Freihammer noted that this dredging would benefit the city cost-wise in the future by requiring less maintenance of the underground pipes on Lincoln Drive that had always been hard to maintain as they were submerged in water.

 

Member Wozniak asked the last time this pond had been cleaned out and where the sediment was coming from.

 

Mr. Ryan advised that the pond was installed in the 1970’s and he had been unable to determine if there had been any subsequent maintenance on it.  As for the origin of the sediment, Mr. Ryan advised that it came primarily from private parking lots and public streets, and noted the purpose of the ponds was to capture the sediment before it reached the wetland.  However, Mr. Johnson noted the need for a more accelerated maintenance program for this type of pond or infiltration system than once every 40 years.

 

Mr. Freihammer noted that in the past more sand was used for ice maintenance during the winter than compared to today on parking lots and/or streets, but noted sediment from grass clippings also impacted those ponds.  Mr. Freihammer noted that there were considerable impervious surfaces in this area; and agreed that 40 years was a long time from installation to follow-up maintenance.

 

Member Wozniak asked if there was any cost contribution by adjacent property owners for such maintenance.

 

Mr. Johnson responded that this was cit land and it had been originally platted this way, including any runoff from the Byerly’s parking lot.  Mr. Johnson noted that Byerly’s maintained their catch basins and piping located within their parking lot, but as with all similar public areas, the city was responsible for public ponds.

 

As with all stormwater management throughout the city, Mr. Freihammer clarified that all city taxpayers, through the city’s stormwater utility fee, paid for that management, and under current city code, there was no direct assessment to adjacent properties, since the flow was considered public water.

 

Member Seigler questioned if the pond should be deeper and should have been excavated more.

 

Mr. Ryan noted there would have been extra volume available as a result, and advised that a considerable amount of additional sediment could have been removed, allowing more gain in area over the next ten years.  However, Mr. Johnson advised that while it may help in some instances to dredge deeper, in some cases, as with this site, there were site constraints defining what could be accomplished.

 

At the request of Member Seigler, Mr. Johnson stated that in this pond, the management involved water evaporation versus infiltration due to the heavy soils in this area.

 

Member Lenz questioned if this created a breeding ground for mosquitoes. 

 

Mr. Johnson noted that there was lots of open water in Roseville, but since insects fed off mosquitoes, this situation was part of the overall ecosystem, and not like having standing water in a tire in a yard.


With the city changes in ice control methods over time, Member Wozniak asked if there were restrictions for private property owners as well.

 

Mr. Johnson advised that private property owners could use their choice for keeping their parking lots safe, noting that they were typically more concerned with liability and safety issues of their clientele rather than whether or not they were using too much sand or salt.

 

Mr. Freihammer noted that a lot had changed over time with many of those businesses using more salt versus sand, as they have found it more effective and causing less tracking into their establishments.

 

Chair Cihacek noted this caused a whole different problem, that of nitrates loading in water bodies; and should become part of the city’s efforts going forward for business and resident choices in ice control.

 

Mr. Johnson confirmed that, as part of the MS4 reporting, the city’s intent for one educational piece was to alert citizens and business owners to the effects of what they used on their lots and impacts to local water resources.  By making them aware of it and the subsequent cost to them, Mr. Johnson expressed his hope that this would prompt them to use less or use these materials more wisely once, especially if and when a business owner found this was cutting into their profits through additional utility fees and infrastructure costs.  With the significant number of private businesses and their stormwater impacts, Mr. Johnson advised that staff was very interested in educating them.  Mr. Johnson noted that these efforts were ongoing and frequent in various communication efforts, with Public Works Department staff continually bringing things to the City’s Communication Department for inclusion in email blasts and city newsletters rather than the cost for doing so specifically to-date in sending individual mailings.  Mr. Johnson advised that the intent was to hopefully reach a broader scale.

 

At the request of Member Wozniak, Mr. Johnson advised that staff anticipated sending letters out this fall, and agreed to copy the PWETC on the letter for their information and feedback. 

 

In the type of material being removed, Mr. Johnson reported that so far, the city had not encountered a huge cost with most materials classified as Type 1 or Type 2, and not the contaminated Type 3 where excavation and disposal costs double do to it being classified as hazardous waste.  Mr. Johnson noted this is always an unknown going into a maintenance project until a testing of the materials removed had been done, and greatly impacting annual construction plans and maintenance.  Mr. Johnson advised that the city was proposing $100,000 annually going forward to achieve protection of its key resources, specifically around Lake McCarrons and Lake Owasso.

 

Member Lenz asked if Shoreview was as aggressive as Roseville with this maintenance, noting that the City of Roseville was the recipient of a lot of sediment coming through the system from Shoreview.

 

Mr. Johnson opined that they are as aggressive, and mentioned several joint cost-share projects undertaken by the Cities of Shoreview and Roseville (Valley Park), noting the great partnership achieved to-date.

 

At the request of Chair Cihacek, Mr. Johnson reported on cost-share opportunities with other adjacent communities and how proactive the cooperative efforts had proven, since the results benefit all communities in the region.  Especially of note, Mr. Johnson noted those communities appreciating Roseville taking the initial lead on the specifications and work with contractors, with their only role to chip in cost-share for the project, making it much more amenable for those other communities, while they still received credit for stormwater maintenance on their individual MS4’s as well.

 

As part of his presentation, Mr. Johnson reviewed various BMPs in 2015 and impacts for stormwater treatment, costs related to each, and favorable results for public and private property in reducing drainage.

 

Mr. Johnson concluded his presentation by addressing minimum control measures and their specific costs going forward; MS4 work, OSHA training and right-to-know training for all applicable staff citywide; all totaling approximately $536,000 annually for this MS4-related work.

 

Mr. Johnson encouraged Roseville residents and business owners to consult the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency (MPCA) website for additional information on efforts they could take to protect stormwater.  Mr. Johnson confirmed that references and links were included in city communication efforts for interested parties to receive more detailed information and to follow-up efforts.

 

In conclusion, Mr. Johnson reported on the very successful semi-annual clean-up day in Roseville recently held.  Mr. Johnson advised that this continued to be a very popular service for residents, including shredding day – a fan favorite – with seven tons shredded in each of the last two years at the City Hall parking lot and free of charge for Roseville residents.

 

  1. City Council Joint Meeting Agenda

Mr. Freihammer provided last year’s discussion items for reference, and proposed topics for this year’s joint meeting between the PWETC and City Council, scheduled for June 20, 2016. 

 

Activities and Accomplishments

Chair Cihacek noted the PWETC’s discussion and consideration of water service issues, including a possible shared risk plan offered by a private vendor and considerable time taken as requested by the City Council, but ultimately denied by the City Council.

 

Chair Cihacek suggested it may be incumbent for the PWETC to ask the City Council about several of those situations, where the PWETC offered a solution, but the City Council had subsequently chosen to deny the recommendation.  Chair Cihacek questioned if there was a more effective or efficient way of moving forward with City Council charges to the PWETC.

 

Member Heimerl noted the considerable time spent by the PWETC on solar issues, solar gardens and other projects.  Member Heimerl opined that those remained important issues, even though still pending, including panels installed on the ice arena.  Member Heimerl expressed his interest in the PWETC providing further guidance yet this year.

 

Mr. Johnson reported that staff continued to work with several solar developers looking at the City Hall campus, based on roof age, structural make-up, and comparisons with the problematic roof structure of the skating center that slowed down that project.  Mr. Johnson reported that staff was still awaiting proposals for that skating center project, and remained open to the potential, with ongoing work with the Metropolitan Council and developer to finalize specific numbers on what the City of Roseville could save and available kilowatt hours it could purchase.  Mr. Johnson noted it was a slow process, but would eventually save the city money, and everyone understood it was the right thing to do while not wanting to jump in and then find out only a minimal amount of annual savings could be found.  Mr. Johnson advised that once the proposals came back, staff would bring them to the PWETC.

 

As far as the OVAL installation, Mr. Johnson advised this remained part of the overall picture depending on the developer(s) and involving the potential consideration of other buildings on the city campus and the viability of the final project.  Mr. Johnson anticipated additional information available in June or July of this year.

 

Other activities undertaken by the PWETC included reviewing and preparing the Recycling RFP; policy issues on plumbing issues; utility rate proposals; tree preservation and replacement policy; sump pumps; sanitary sewer questions; and other reaction to other proposed policy updates.

 

Member Trainor noted the PWETC’s frequent field trips as another accomplishment; with Member Lenz suggesting the City Council do the same in reviewing community needs or concerns.

 

2016 Work Plan Items

Mr. Freihammer noted some of these items, including transit accessibility (e.g. pedestrian and bicycle paths) would tie into the comprehensive plan update process over the next year.  Mr. Cihacek noted that this effort, giving consideration to appropriate transit usage to inform the Metropolitan Council, would take up a considerable amount of time over the next year, including as the A-Line bus rapid transit (BRT) passenger numbers and customer satisfaction was considered.  Mr. Freihammer noted that the City of Roseville and its riders had lost a lot of bus lines when the Green Line went in, creating less accessible options for many residents.  Mr. Freihammer noted that the transportation aspects would look at bike paths and connections to other communities as well, including more sidewalks or connecting sidewalks to make Roseville pedestrian-friendly.

 

Questions or Concerns for the City Council

·         Rights-of-way, setback, lot usage and long-term lack of use of some easements and whether some of those not being used for a considerable amount of time may be holding back potential household improvements.

 

Member Seigler asked that staff, including Public Works Director Culver with input from the Planning Commission, return with more formal information on this issue, including how calculations are determined.

 

·         Mr. Freihammer advised that two additional ordinances would be coming forward for PWETC discussion: sump pump clarifications as they related to the Inflow and Infiltration (I & I) and suggested language revisions from staff and for PWETC review; and also an ordinance related to private hydrants and creation of an ordinance addressing their installation and maintenance.

 

·         Recycling Components: Chair Cihacek suggested that the City Council provide more comprehensive direction related to other recycling components, whether to increase amounts or address smaller elements of curbside collection (e.g. plastic bag recycling, organics, etc.) to determine if the City Council wants that to be part of the PWETC work plan for the next year.

 

Discussion ensued regarding processing costs for plastic bags at MRF’s; the City of Minneapolis’ ban on plastic bags starting next year; and Mr. Johnson reporting that he has seen no involvement from other communities or vendors in curbside recycling of plastic bags; and whether or not the City of Roseville should provide this as a city-specific service beyond the vendor services.

 

General Comments

Chair Cihacek noted the considerable time needed over the next year for the normal work items under the PWETC charge.

 

Member Lenz also noted the considerable time required with the Recycling RFP; with Member Wozniak noting future discussion on organics as part of that.

 

Member Seigler requested a report from staff on leaf collection follow-up and additional public outreach needed going forward.

 

Member Lenz requested additional consideration of the recycling potential for plastic bags.

 

Member Wozniak noted another recommendation of the PWETC denied by the City Council was for consideration of organized trash collection.

 

In jest, Chair Cihacek observed that the PWETC was being very productive, but the City Council was apparently not matching its level of productivity.

 

Member Seigler excused himself from the meeting at approximately 8:02 p.m.

         

Regarding the process and protocol for the joint meeting, Chair Cihacek advised that, as chairperson, he would represent the PWETC at the table, with assistance from Public Works Director Culver, in response to questions or comments of the City Council.

 

  1. Public Works City Code Updates

Mr. Freihammer provided a brief preliminary summary of proposed ordinance updates for sump pumps and private hydrants, as detailed in the staff report and attachments and as previously noted in the upcoming PWETC work plan.

 

Mr. Freihammer referred to the draft ordinance revisions as provided (Attachment A).

 

At the request of Member Trainor, Mr. Freihammer confirmed that all red highlighted areas represented new language to the current code; with the intent that it would ensure the city code allowed for staff enforcement versus relying on a neighbor to neighbor dispute scenario. 

 

Sump Pumps

At the request of Chair Cihacek, Mr. Freihammer advised that the proposed language for I & I conformed to stormwater staying on the subject property and not flowing to adjacent properties, and probably wouldn’t change what most people did as a common and typical practice, with few exceptions. 

 

At the request of Member Lenz, this included not being able to discharge stormwater runoff directly into a stormwater pond, but on public rights-or-way.

 

Member Heimerl noted that the city pursued people more aggressively for violation of other city code, and questioned why not be more aggressive with sump pump discharges as well.


Mr. Freihammer responded that while it depended on how aggressive the city wanted to be, it involved a general cost to the city for those doing so versus those not discharging, since the city and its utility users ended up paying for treatment of that water at a considerable expense.  Mr. Freihammer suggested that be a discussion point going forward, noting there are two types of sump pumps, those dumping into a floor drain or sink, and also those with foundation drains installed when the home was build and plumbed for discharging directly into the sanitary sewer system.  Therefore, Mr. Freihammer suggested two different kinds of violations that needed identified through inspection programs, during building or other permit inspections, and potential requirement that those former systems be disconnected with a related timeframe to do so.  However, Mr. Freihammer noted that depending on their type of installation, some would be easier and less costly to do than others.

 

Member Heimerl noted that some people now purchasing homes, or those living in homes built in the 1950’s may not even be aware of the situation; and suggested a grace period for new owners with homes incorrectly plumbed to bring them into compliance.  Member Heimerl opined that at a minimum this would at least bring to their attention that they were currently violating city code; and create a more friendly way to work with residents versus having them continue to violate code, especially when they may not know they’re doing so.  Member Heimerl spoke in support of that as a better approach to differentiate those knowingly violating city code and those not knowing they’re doing so; and therefore make the program more voluntary in nature.

 

Chair Cihacek noted the proof of sale concept that required anyone selling a home to fix the issue for new residents, with title transition triggering the home be brought up-to-date with city code.

 

Mr. Freihammer noted this would be a point of discussion for the future as to what triggered or tied into municipal code, and a timeframe for actively enforcing it, with the ultimate goal for residents to get it corrected as soon as possible.

 

Private Hydrants

Mr. Freihammer reported that there were no requirements at this point, with private hydrants built as part of a private development under requirements of the city and fire department, with the goal to make sure they were working if and when needed, but no records of that maintenance.  Mr. Freihammer advised that the city maintained all city-owned hydrants and kept records of their repair and periodic pressure testing, but there was no code in place to address private hydrants.  According to the city’s fire code, all hydrants are to be tested annually for pressure and flow and operation (valves.); and noted by Mr. Freihammer, the city needs to know of this maintenance and require adherence to those requirements.

 

Therefore, Mr. Freihammer noted the outline in the proposed ordinance for all private hydrants to be inspected and tested at least once/year; which could be done by the city with a related fee as part of its fee schedule; or the property owners could do so by hiring their own licensed company and submit required records to the city with those inspection records maintained and available for the city.  If repairs are needed, Mr. Freihammer noted that the property owner could coordinate them or have the city complete repairs and assess them for those repair costs.

 

Discussion ensued regarding the number of private hydrants on private or residential lots on private roads citywide; those on public land at shopping centers typically located at the back of the property with a private water main and hydrant system; with the annual inspection similar to other required annual inspections (e.g. elevators in multi-story buildings).

 

Member Wozniak questioned the language on Attachment A, page 11, in the last paragraph of the highlighted area, with inspection form complying with fire code requirements.

 

Mr. Freihammer advised that staff would work with the fire department on specific language, but the compliance portion would probably be administered by the public works department to verify which hydrants were on private or public land, with all built to the same standard, but identified by map as to their designation.

 

Further discussion ensued as to whether or not that designation is available through GIS mapping; and the need to verify private hydrants and their locations as part of the update during this ordinance process.  Mr. Freihammer estimated there may be 500 or more private hydrants throughout the community.

 

  1. Possible Items for Next Meeting – June 28, 2016

·         Review Joint City Council/PWETC Meeting

·         Stormwater Credit Impact Fund Update

·         Recycling RFP Update/Presentation of Scores and Pricing

Chair Cihacek asked staff to allow one hour for this agenda item

·         Pedestrian Connections and Bike Lanes on Lexington Avenue

Chair Cihacek asked staff to provide an update on whether or not there was a dedicated bike lane intended for Lexington Avenue, and if so why it was not marked as such.  Chair Cihacek noted there may be other areas citywide as well that should be part of broader upcoming transit discussions.

 

  1. Adjourn

Member Lenz moved, Member Wozniak seconded, adjournment of the PWETC at approximately 8:25 p.m.

 

Ayes: 5

Nays: 0

Motion carried.

 

 

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