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Meeting Minutes

Tuesday, June 26, 2007, at 6:30 p.m.

City Council Chambers, 2660 Civic Center Drive

Roseville, Minnesota 55113

 

 

1.     Introductions/Roll Call

 

            Commission members present:  Randy Neprash, Joel Fischer, Jan Vanderwall, Ernie Willenbring , and Jim DeBenedet

 

            Commission members absent:  None

 

                   Staff present:  Duane Schwartz, Public Works Director; Deb Bloom, City Engineer

 

                   Others present: 

 

2.   Public Comments

 

                   None

 

       3.  6:30-7:30 - Tour of Rice Street Corridor

 

         4.  Approval of May 22, 2007, Meeting Minutes

 

          Chair DeBenedet noted that on Page 3, Item 6, second paragraph, fourth line, he wanted “issues concerning them” changed to “issues concerning the PWETC.”  Also, he wanted the recommendations listed at the top of Page 4 to be expanded upon rather than listed as they were spoken at the meeting.  Member Vanderwall suggested including with the minutes a design scheme showing the area with their recommendations.  Chair DeBenedet said in this case this information has already gone to council but going forward that could be done

 


          Member Neprash moved to approve the minutes of the May 22, 2007, meeting of the Public Works, Environment and Transportation Commission.  Member Fischer seconded. 

 

                   Ayes:            4

                   Nays:            0

                   Abstained:     1

                   Motion carried

 

                   Member Neprash asked about information on the emissions survey that was requested at the May meeting.  Mr. Schwartz said he and Chair DeBenedet had talked about it, and it was not added to this agenda but will be in the future.

 

                   Member Neprash asked about a new schedule for the Northwestern College review.  Mr. Schwartz said it is included in this packet under the Northwestern item.

 

       5.    Communication Items

 

                   Mr. Schwartz said the City received word from Transit for Livable Communities, and Roseville did not get the grant for trail and bike path improvements. 

 

         6.    Northwestern College EAW Review and Comment

 

            Deb Bloom updated the Commission on the current status of this project.

 

            Member Fischer said he thought TKDA did a great job working with the City and MPCA and all the requirements, but he thought they could have done a better job on the cumulative impacts.  They only focused on the college area and not the surrounding area.  Ms. Bloom said the City did make sure they included the Twin Lakes area in the study.  Member Fischer said they could have hit it a little harder.  Ms. Bloom said since they only have control over what’s on their site, should there even be a cumulative impact, plus how far out do you go?  Member Fischer agreed that was a question for the City Attorney. 

 

            Member Neprash proposed that with Northwestern College expanding and purchasing more property, which moves those properties off the tax roles, that part of the negotiation for this planned unit development would be for the City to ask for a yearly payment in lieu of taxes for the current properties and any future properties.  He suggested the commission recommend this to the City Council. 

 

            Member DeBenedet said he understood asking for the college to contribute funds for some things, such as traffic signals.  He said why not do an area assessment of cost.  Ms. Bloom said it’s not allowed by State Statute, but she could ask the City Attorney about it. 

 

            Member Willenbring asked if they would be setting any precedent for other PUD’s if they recommended this.  Member Neprash said he didn’t know but any city action did that to some extent. 

 

            Member Vanderwall said he didn’t like the sound of asking for money to make up missing taxes but preferred referring to it as paying for additional city services.  Member Neprash said that’s the context he had in mind with this suggestion. 

 

            Member Fischer said his opinion was that the City Council should vote for a negative declaration on the Environmental Impact Statement (EIS).  He said in his experience it is very rare that one is requested. 

 

            Member Neprash said he didn’t think the statement in the report “work toward ensuring all direct untreated discharges are eliminated” was strong enough.  Ms. Bloom said they could get rid of “work toward” and say “will identify and treat.” 

 

            Member Neprash said he found it interesting how the EAW came about.  A Roseville resident had requested one be done during public comments, and the college just agreed to do one without being formally asked by the City.  He suggested that an informal request for an EAW be added as a regular part of the development process.  Member Vanderwall suggested that would cause certain people to focus on that part of the process, and it would become a nuisance issue.  Ms. Bloom said if it was requested from everyone wouldn’t the purpose be watered down.  Member Neprash said then would staff be willing to look at the appropriate trigger for each applicant and make the request.  Then if the applicant refused, the City could make a formal request.  Mr. Schwartz said in this case most of the work for the EAW was already completed so it was fairly easy for Northwestern College to complete it. 

 

            Member Neprash moved to forward these recommendations to the City Council:  Identify and eliminate all illegal direct untreated discharges, amend the traffic study to include Twin Lakes, and clarify the cumulative impacts.  Member Vanderwall seconded. 

 

            Ayes:            5

            Nays:            0

            Motion carried

 

            Member Neprash requested a draft of the recommendations be sent to the Commission for review before being forwarded to the City Council. 

 

 

            Member Neprash said he didn’t think a recommendation on a negative declaration was appropriate for this Commission to make since residents wanting to request an EIW would take it to the City Council and not the PWETC.  Member Vanderwall said he thought it would be irresponsible of the Commission not to make a recommendation on an issue because somebody might have an opinion they didn’t hear. 

 

            Member Fischer said the question to ask yourself is if this plan has the potential for significant environmental effect.

 

            Chair DeBenedet said it was clear to him that the City Council has asked for comments and recommendations from the PWETC, and that’s what they should do. 

 

            Member Fischer moved to recommend that Council issue a negative declaration.  Member Vanderwall seconded. 

 

            Ayes:            4

            Nayes:          1

            Motion carried

 

7.   Pathway Master Plan Additional Information

 

                   Member Vanderwall moved that this topic be discussed at the July meeting.  Member Willenbring seconded.

 

                   Ayes:            5

                   Nayes:          0

                   Motion carried

 

8.     Welcome to Roseville Signs Discussion

 

            Duane Schwartz briefed the Commission on the history of this topic and posed certain questions: What criteria to use in deciding which groups get their logo on the sign; should the Roseville Visitor’s Association be involved (they’ve been discussing placing banners on streetlights in certain streetscape areas); where and how many signs should be placed; what type of sign should be used.

 

            Mr. Schwartz said staff would be prepared to discuss this further at the next meeting.  The Roseville Visitor’s Association could also be invited for their input.

 

            Member Willenbring asked if the banners the Roseville Visitor’s Association was proposing would deteriorate.  Mr. Schwartz said they would, and that should be part of the maintenance discussion.  Member Willenbring said he would like signs similar to the current parks signs to make things more consistent, but different enough to be distinctive. 

            Member Vanderwall suggested choosing each sign for the specific street on which it will be placed, depending on how much and what kind of traffic, what part of the City it’s in, etc. 

 

            Chair DeBenedet asked for the Commissioner’s questions for staff on this issue.  They included:

 

§         How much will maintenance cost, and who pays for it?

§         Where can the signs be located?

§         Are easements necessary?

§         What are the criteria for groups to be added to the signs? (Chair DeBenedet thought this should be asked of the City Attorney)

§         Check with other cities to see what they do, including any problems with vandalism.

§         Check with sign companies for brochures or other information on these types of signs

§         Park signs – check on pricing and availability of others to match

§         Traffic counts of proposed streets

 

            Member Vanderwall said the high school graphic design classes could make professional-looking signs if that was the way they wanted to go.

 

9.     Agenda for Next Meeting – July 24, 2007

 

            Pathway Master Plan Discussion

            Cool Cities Emissions Survey

            Grant for Vacuum Street Sweeper

            Storm Water Utility Rates

            Storm Water Issue Information to Residents

 

10. Adjournment

 

 

 

 

 

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