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Meeting Minutes

Tuesday, May 22, 2007, at 6:30 p.m.

City Council Chambers, 2660 Civic Center Drive

Roseville, Minnesota 55113

 

 

1.     Introductions/Roll Call

 

            Commission members present:  Randy Neprash, Joel Fischer, Ernie Willenbring, and Jim DeBenedet

 

            Commission members absent:  Jan Vanderwall

 

                   Staff present:  Deb Bloom, City Engineer

 

                   Others present:  Natalie Tungsvik, Roseville High School Earth Group;

                             Alex Hall, United Properties

 

2.   Public Comments

 

                   None

 

3.     Approval of April 24, 2007, Meeting Minutes

 

          Member Neprash moved to approve the minutes of the April 24, 2007, meeting of the Public Works, Environment and Transportation Commission.  Member Fischer seconded. 

 

                   Ayes:            4

                   Nays:            0

                   Motion carried

 

       4.    Communication Items

 

                   Duane Schwartz updated the Commission on the proposals being sought for an Inflow/Infiltration Study for the City.  The Council has approved Bonestroo to do the study. 

 

                   Mr. Schwartz updated the Commission on the Ramsey County Rice Street TAC meetings.  Chair DeBenedet brought up the proposed width of Rice Street and how that might affect businesses with parking lots close to the road.  He suggested the Commission take a van tour of the area in June, July or August.  Member Neprash said narrow boulevard areas are a real problem for snow removal on pathways. 

 

                   Information was provided to the Commission on electronics recycling.

 

                   Mr. Schwartz said the newest version of the Fertilizer/Pesticide Ordinance had been passed by the City Council.

 

                   Deb Bloom presented information on a recent meeting sponsored by the Sierra Club “Bicycling in the Burbs.”  Member Neprash asked if the bicyclists thought they have a clear line of communication with the City.  Ms. Bloom said she thought so.  Member Neprash asked that when the bicyclists have some recommendations they be presented at a PWETC meeting. 

 

                   Mr. Schwartz mentioned that the City’s grant request from Transit for Livable Communities scored third highest so we have a fair shot at receiving funding.

 

5.     High School Environmental Group “Cool Cities Campaign”

 

            Natalie Tungsvik, Roseville High School Student, explained what her group was about and how appreciative they were of the receptive attitude of the city officials they’ve met with so far.  Their group is supporting the U.S. Mayors’ Climate Protection Agreement, which Roseville’s mayor has signed.  She said the next steps are to get an emissions survey and create an action plan.  Her group would like to continue working with the city to come up with a plan. 

 

            Member Fischer asked if she knew of companies in the state that perform emissions surveys.  Ms. Tungsvik said she didn’t know at this time. 

 

            Mr. Schwartz said the mayor has signed the U.S. Mayors’ Climate Protection Agreement and that the full City Council endorsed it.  The Council has also directed city staff, commissions, and the Housing & Redevelopment Authority to consider initiatives and make recommendations on activities that the City of Roseville could undertake to help meet full city standards.

 

            Chair DeBenedet said there should be a link on the City’s website to the Climate Action Handbook that had been provided to them and that using more efficient motors and pumps would help reduce greenhouse gases and may reduce costs. 

 

            Mr. Schwartz said there are many areas to look at, including transit and pathways, and that these topics should be kept in mind for future agendas. 

            Member Neprash said he was intrigued with doing an emissions survey and would like to know who’s capable of doing them, what’s involved and how much it would cost. 

 

            Chair DeBenedet asked staff to check into who performs these surveys and what the cost would be.  Mr. Schwartz said another thing to look at is the accompanying software to the Climate Action Handbook that can be purchased for $600. 

 

6.     United Properties Applewood II Proposal

 

                   Alex Hall of United Properties presented information on the senior co-op building for active seniors that they are proposing at 3010 Cleveland Avenue. 

 

                   Chair DeBenedet asked what the PWETC’s role was in the development review process.  Mr. Schwartz said they didn’t have an official role at this point, but the process was under review.  Chair DeBenedet said he wanted the Commission to look at the issues concerning the PWETC and adopt a motion with recommendations.

 

                   Chair DeBenedet asked if the proposed road would ever become a through street.  Ms. Bloom responded that the studies she’s seen have shown that a signal would be necessary at County Road C2, and when Twin Lakes is fully developed, there will be a connecting street through that area with a signal onto Cleveland. 

 

                   Member Neprash suggested the Parks Department increase the size of the parking lot enough so that no one needed to park in the roadway. 

 

                   Member Neprash asked if this project would fall under the requirement for 25% impervious area.  Ms. Bloom said that requirement is only in shore land areas, and this isn’t shore land. 

 

                   Member Neprash asked if the storm water ponds were sufficient in size for the area and were they deep enough to treat the water sufficiently.  Ms. Bloom said the City has a performance standard the developer will have to meet.  Alex Hall said the final plans have not been completed, but storm water will be channeled to storm water ponds on either side of the development, plus rain gardens and other things will be added. 

 

                   Chair DeBenedet asked where the wetland area would be mitigated.  Mr. Hall said that hasn’t been finalized yet but pointed out a possible location.  Ms. Bloom said that Rice Creek Watershed District would make the final decision on that. 

 

                   Chair DeBenedet asked for a formal motion of their recommendations.  Ms. Bloom read Commission members suggestions from her notes.

1.      Explore the island and cul-du-sac area

2.      Identify costs associated with the public street and make sure it’s wide enough

3.      Sidewalk connections

4.      8’ boulevard

5.      No parking along the east side of the road at the parking garage

6.      Eliminate parking spaces if possible

7.      Follow up on impervious percentage regulations

8.      Are storm ponds appropriately sized

9.      Mitigating wetland by expanding the southern wetland area and possibly using it for more storm water infiltration

10.  Pathway connection to the park is important—look at how the Cleveland and Brenner connections occur

11.  Keep impervious area to what is necessary

 

                   Chair DeBenedet said the important thing about the cul-du-sac was to review the design, whether the island is viable

 

                   Member Neprash moved to adopt the list of 11 recommendations to send on to the Planning Commission.  Member Willenbring seconded.

 

                   Ayes:            4

                   Nays:            0

                   Motion carried

 

7.     Pathway Master Plan Discussion

 

            Chair DeBenedet asked what the City’s current funding options were regarding constructing pathways.  Mr. Schwartz said there is no current construction budget, only a maintenance budget.  A construction budget will be a discussion point for the 2008 budget process. 

 

            Ms. Bloom went through a list of pathways that have already been constructed.

 

            Chair DeBenedet said he wanted to discuss how to put money back in the budget for constructing new pathways.  He said one step would be to communicate with other commissions on how they want to proceed.  Member Neprash said one possibility would be a separate, temporary committee set up just to look at this issue, although he wasn’t convinced that was necessary. 

 

            Chair DeBenedet said he didn’t think the Pathway Master Plan needed to be completely redone, but that they should request from the City Council the means to accomplish the recommendations in the old plan within 10 years. 

 

            Mr. Schwartz said he thought they should start out with a general request for some funding.  2008 budget requests need to be turned in this week.  Council discussion begins in July. 

 

            Ms. Bloom suggested they decide what the actual goals are, for example, are they going for pathways on both sides of every street.  Different goals would require different funding.  Mr. Schwartz said he thought they should start out recommending $100,000-$150,000 for the 2008 budget.

 

            Mr. Schwartz asked for input on a schedule on how they want to deal with this topic. 

 

            Chair DeBenedet said they should start with notifying other commissions and staff members that the PWETC is looking into reevaluating the 1997 Pathway Master Plan with a view towards recommending to Council that funds be budgeted on a regular basis.  He also requested a more comprehensive list of which projects had been completed from the 1997 master plan.

 

            Member Neprash wanted on-street bike lanes to be included in discussions for changes. 

 

8.     Agenda for Next Meeting – June 26, 2007

 

            Drive of Rice Street – Chair DeBenedet asked Mr. Schwartz to notify the other two city representatives to the TAC of the tour in case they wanted to attend.

 

            Additional information on Pathway Master Plan

 

            Northwestern College Environmental Assessment Worksheet

 

9.     Northwestern College Environmental Assessment Worksheet

 

            Member Neprash added this item after the agenda was published. 

 

            Member Neprash asked what the schedule is and when and how do comments get submitted from the PWETC.

 

            Duane Schwartz passed out the schedule Northwestern College’s consultant had submitted. 

 

            Member Neprash noted that the time between the release of the findings and the final action by the Council if short--is that wise and can that be changed.  Ms. Bloom said she could check with Community Development. 

 

            Member Fischer said he worked as a project manager preparing these forms himself and that by the time it’s submitted, most everything has already been worked out, so there usually isn’t much to take care of at this point. 

 

            Mr. Schwartz said that comments from Commission members could be taken at the June meeting and still forwarded to the City Council before the final decision.  Chair DeBenedet agreed but said he wasn’t opposed to calling a special meeting of the Commission if it was necessary.

 

            Member Neprash said he noticed the Council passed something the other night on the AUAR Twin Lakes.  Mr. Schwartz said the Council had authorized the completion of the AUAR last fall; but due to the original developer proposal being withdrawn, there was a change of scope needed.  The Council authorized completion with the change of scope.

 

10. Adjournment

 

 

 

 

 

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