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Meeting Minutes

Tuesday, October 23, 2007, at 6:30 p.m.

 

1.      Introductions/Roll Call

 

            Commission members present:  Jan Vanderwall, Ernie Willenbring, and Jim DeBenedet

 

            Commission members absent:  Randy Neprash

 

                   Staff present:  Duane Schwartz, Public Works Director

 

                   Others present:  Chris Miller, Finance Director

 

       2. Public Comments

 

                   None

 

3.      Approval of September 25, 2007, Meeting Minutes

 

          Member Willenbring moved to approve the minutes of the September 25, 2007, meeting of the Public Works, Environment and Transportation Commission.  Member Vanderwall seconded. 

 

                   Ayes:            3

                   Nays:            0

                   Abstained:     0

                   Motion carried

 

       4.   Communication Items

 

                   A handbook for commission members was provided for their use. 

 

                   Jim DeBenedet mentioned that since there has been a resignation on the commission, a new member is being sought.  For information, call city hall or check out the city’s website. 

 

                   The Rice Street Technical Advisory Committee met in September, and Ramsey County is doing some traffic studies before the next meeting in November.  City and county staff met last week to talk about specific issues relating to impacts and future needs. 

 

                   Mr. Schwartz brought up the December meeting date, which falls on Christmas Day.  Member Willenbring suggested canceling the meeting unless there was something important coming up.  Member Vanderwall and Chair DeBenedet agreed that tentatively canceling the meeting would be the best option.

 

                   Member Vanderwall moved to cancel the December 25th meeting pending urgent need.  Member Willenbring seconded. 

 

                   Ayes:            3

                   Nays:            0

                   Abstained:     0

                   Motion carried

 

            Chair DeBenedet spoke on the first meeting of the Comprehensive Plan Steering Committee.  They will be meeting monthly, and he will continue updating the PWETC on progress. 

 

5.      2008 Utility Rate Discussion

 

            Chris Miller, City of Roseville Finance Director, presented information on the 2008 utility rates. 

 

            Member Vanderwall asked if the water, sanitary sewer and storm drainage functions were totally supported by user fees or if other tax money was used.  Mr. Miller said yes and that that was a typical practice in other cities as well.  Users are charged for the amount they use. 

 

            Member Vanderwall asked how this year’s rate increases related to increases in the last few years.  Mr. Miller said it’s been going up each year.  Mr. Schwartz said energy costs are a big factor.  Mr. Miller said increases should be close to inflation rates for the next five years. 

 

            Member Willenbring asked if a rate adjustment was automatic each year.  Mr. Miller said in his time it has been adjusted every year, some less some more. 

 

            Chair DeBenedet said one of his concerns was whether the city was reserving enough money to cover infrastructure replacement in the future.  Mr. Schwartz said the city manager has mentioned possibly having a financial consultant do a rate study to make sure rates are in line with future needs. 

           

6.      2008 Pavement Management Program

 

            Mr. Schwartz updated the commission on the street projects approved by the City Council for 2008. 

 

            Member Willenbring asked about doing projects jointly with Arden Hills.  Mr. Schwartz said the mill and overlay projects for 2008 had been bid jointly to reduce costs, and other projects will be done that way when possible. 

 

            Member Willenbring asked if roads deteriorated differently when the soils were different.  Mr. Schwartz said they definitely do.

 

            Chair DeBenedet asked what measures were being used for storm water management.  Mr. Schwartz said at this point they would be using infiltration practices, such as rain gardens and infiltration trenches rather than porous pavement, which is relatively expensive. 

 

7.      Har Mar PUD Amendments

 

            Mr. Schwartz went over the amendments. 

 

Member Willenbring asked about storm water.  Mr. Schwartz said there would be an underground holding area, which would slowly infiltrate into the ground. 

 

Chair DeBenedet asked if there were any private wells in the area.  If there are, a monitoring well might be required because of the large amount of infiltration.  Mr. Schwartz said he’d have to check into it. 

 

Member Willenbring asked what type of soils were at the site and wanted to make sure the holding area was designed for that specific soil.  Member Vanderwall asked if the holding areas had specific maintenance issues.  Mr. Schwartz said yes and that there would be a maintenance agreement between the property owner and the watershed district. 

 

Mr. Schwartz said the city has some questions about the traffic study, and the city has asked Har Mar to do some additional work. 

 

Member Vanderwall questioned why County Road B couldn’t be two lanes all the way from Snelling to Hamline.  This would ease congestion at that Har Mar exit. 

 

Member Willenbring pointed out that they were planning to close the first intersection east of Snelling.  Member Vanderwall said it wouldn’t hurt to keep it open but make it an entrance only. 

 

Chair DeBenedet said it concerned him that there would only be two main entrances to the mall and also questioned what was happening with the Skillman/Snelling intersection changes.  Mr. Schwartz said the changes were on hold right now since Har Mar didn’t want to participate.  Mr. Schwartz said they could possibly ask Har Mar sign an agreement stating they would explore changes if a specific growth level was attained.

 

Chair DeBenedet moved that the commission make the following storm water recommendations to the Planning Commission:

 

1.      Staff reviews for any private water supply wells within ¼ mile of the proposed infiltration basin.

2.      If there are private wells within ¼ mile to require monitoring wells.

3.      Review the soil suitability for water infiltration

 

                   Member Vanderwall seconded.                 

 

                   Ayes:            3

                   Nays:            0

                   Abstained:     0

                   Motion carried

 

Chair DeBenedet moved that the commission make the following traffic recommendations to the Planning Commission:

 

1.      Applicant’s traffic study should follow the city consultant’s recommendations

2.      Applicant develop a pedestrian bicycle access plan

 

            Member Vanderwall seconded and added an item to the motion.

 

            3.  The traffic study make recommendations on the best and most effective methods of mitigating the traffic conditions, especially the E and F traffic conditions at the County Road B and Snelling intersection.

 

                   Ayes:            3

                   Nays:            0

                   Abstained:     0

                   Motion carried

 

8.      “Welcome to Roseville” Sign Concepts

 

            Member Willenbring suggested postponing this item until the next meeting.  All agreed.

 

9.      Twin Lakes Design Principles

 

                   Mr. Schwartz updated the commission on the latest developments.  There has been some interest in different development proposals.  Commission members were asked for their input on design principles. 

 

                   Member Vanderwall said the design plan looked like it belonged in a more urban area and that he hoped sidewalks and bike paths would be included in the design.  Chair DeBenedet agreed that sidewalks and bike paths should be included. 

 

                   Member Vanderwall said as far as parking goes he thinks only parallel parking would work in Roseville.  Member Willenbring said that slant parking might mean a parking ramp could be avoided. 

 

                   Member Vanderwall said he didn’t see anything regarding technology that would be available for the development.  Chair DeBenedet said that maybe a spare conduit needed to be added into the design to avoid having to rip up pavement in the future when someone needed different lines to their building.  Mr. Schwartz said that a plan for utility conduits had been discussed with the previous developer. 

 

                   Mr. Schwartz said that Metro Transit has voiced interest in having a park and ride facility at Twin Lakes.  Member Vanderwall said a system should be built to use the Roseville Circulator buses to bring people to the transit hub and then on to other buses rather than building a big parking lot.

 

                   Member Vanderwall moved to recommend additions to the design document as follows:

 

1.                  Undergrounding utilities where feasible

2.                  Conduits for communications and technologies for future use

3.                  Enhanced transit facilities and opportunities

4.                  Parking in 10 vehicle units between islands

5.                  Illustrations should be viable scenarios

 

Member Willenbring seconded.

 

                   Ayes:            3

                   Nays:            0

                   Abstained:     0

                   Motion carried

 

10.  Agenda for next meeting – November 27, 2007

 

            “Welcome to Roseville” Signs

            Rice Street Design

            Update on this month’s recommendations

 

11. Adjournment

 

 

 

 

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